I'd actually argue we have devolved into a fascist state. You have things like suggesting sending in the National Guard to relieve labor shortages (not just break a strike), Biden asking truckers and dockworkers to go 24/7 out of "patriotic duty", you have airline CEOs openly influencing public health bodies to lower COVID quarantine times for purely business reasons, you have private media companies taking stories directly from the DoD and intelligence community press releases. You have the massive US prison system with widespread forced labor, much of which is in private prisons. You have the overseas adventures justified by flimsy reasons that boil down to "we deserve it/they don't". Anarchists and M-Ls aren't in literal concentration camps, but look at the Steven Donzegar case (contempt of court charge from a corporate judge just for winning a judgement against Chevron). We all know about Gitmo and the Supermax prison system, and we've all heard the stern warnings about the coming crackdown on "domestic terror".
There's historical precedent for all of those happening before the creation of fascism.
Are you going to tell me that Louis the sun king (can't be bothered to look up which number) was a fascist because the prison system under his rule used prisoners as free penal labor?
That the free newspapers under that whiny walrus mustached Prussian dipshit Bismark didn't push state propaganda handed to then?
Go name a handful of countries that hasn't used the soldiery as labor in their nation, its a common occurrence through history. Shit even the Rus.Fed used their military as cops sometimes.
I'm not knowledgeable about history of capitalist fuckery during pandemics since that's not my usual field of study therefore I can not say either way, but I'm going to be a debatebro and say if
airline CEOs openly influencing public health bodies to lower COVID quarantine times for purely business reasons
is a quantifiable mark of a fascist state, then by your logic actual fascist states that existed fail to meet that standard.
I'll also apply that as well to the Steven Donzegar case, since as far as I'm aware that precedent wasn't made in nazi Germany or fascist italy.
The point I'm making is that unless you're planning to make a historical blanket statement that everything is fascism, then you should probably spend some time analyzing the differences between fascist states and imperialist states. Portugal and Spain would be excellent studies since they lasted years longer than their more infamous counterparts.
I'd actually argue we have devolved into a fascist state. You have things like suggesting sending in the National Guard to relieve labor shortages (not just break a strike), Biden asking truckers and dockworkers to go 24/7 out of "patriotic duty", you have airline CEOs openly influencing public health bodies to lower COVID quarantine times for purely business reasons, you have private media companies taking stories directly from the DoD and intelligence community press releases. You have the massive US prison system with widespread forced labor, much of which is in private prisons. You have the overseas adventures justified by flimsy reasons that boil down to "we deserve it/they don't". Anarchists and M-Ls aren't in literal concentration camps, but look at the Steven Donzegar case (contempt of court charge from a corporate judge just for winning a judgement against Chevron). We all know about Gitmo and the Supermax prison system, and we've all heard the stern warnings about the coming crackdown on "domestic terror".
What's the argument that America isn't fascist?
There's historical precedent for all of those happening before the creation of fascism.
Are you going to tell me that Louis the sun king (can't be bothered to look up which number) was a fascist because the prison system under his rule used prisoners as free penal labor?
That the free newspapers under that whiny walrus mustached Prussian dipshit Bismark didn't push state propaganda handed to then?
Go name a handful of countries that hasn't used the soldiery as labor in their nation, its a common occurrence through history. Shit even the Rus.Fed used their military as cops sometimes.
I'm not knowledgeable about history of capitalist fuckery during pandemics since that's not my usual field of study therefore I can not say either way, but I'm going to be a debatebro and say if
is a quantifiable mark of a fascist state, then by your logic actual fascist states that existed fail to meet that standard.
I'll also apply that as well to the Steven Donzegar case, since as far as I'm aware that precedent wasn't made in nazi Germany or fascist italy.
The point I'm making is that unless you're planning to make a historical blanket statement that everything is fascism, then you should probably spend some time analyzing the differences between fascist states and imperialist states. Portugal and Spain would be excellent studies since they lasted years longer than their more infamous counterparts.
Ultimately, I'd argue that "fascism" is a unique historical moment, but the US absolutely meets a lot of the criteria.