• Dingus_Khan [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    They hang the man and flog the woman

    Who steals the goose from off the common

    Yet let the greater villain loose

    That steals the common from the goose

      • Dingus_Khan [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        It's one variant of a folk poem from England during the time of the enclosures. There are a bunch of verses and variations, but that's the first one I heard and the only I can remember. I like it as a concise reminder that large parts of our current status quo were first enacted violently on people who knew it was wrong and fought back constantly. People have been saying this shit for centuries, it's just they all get killed for it

  • Vampire [any]
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    3 years ago

    So I have something interesting regarding this.

    I used to think "The commons was England being based, huh. We'll give them one." It kinda made no sense, but I bit the bullet.

    But remember what England is: originally Celtic, with Roman, then Saxon and Norman layers.

    It all made sense whenI read Recognizing and Moving on from a Failed Paradigm: The Case of Agricultural Landscapes in Anglo-Saxon England c. AD 400-800. Susan Oosthuizen 1 Journal of Archaeological Research volume 24, pages 179-227 (2016)

    She shows that the commonage tradition is a remainder of Britain's indigenous Celtic lifeways, which then got compromised and mixed with imperialistic legal systems like the Roman. This makes an internal English struggle a struggle between based communal nativelaws and property-based invaderlaws

  • karl3422 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Also trade unions and the idea of solidarity being a key leftist concept have roots in England with the Tolpuddle martyrs

    we weren't always like this but were made so

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV0wTtiJygY

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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    3 years ago

    Trads, conservatives, and other dorks insists that property is a natural concept born out of human selfishness.

    Yet history show that whenever they are left unsupervised for even just a moment, the commoners would always try to rebel against the rulers and redistribute wealth.

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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    3 years ago

    Chumbawumba has an album of olde tyme British rebel songs!

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA5zQ1xNekgr4MeiVCfCIVpJFYr1G8sGz

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Someone probably linked it already but The True Levellers Standard Advanced is fucking good and good to read. Try it