Ngl, I think Hexbear/Lemmygrad moderators/admins should consier making a left-unity instance inspired on Lemmy-world, I think that is needed for sure. But I don't know how to convince the left on Lemmy to doing so. I even let the idea of a hypothetical instance like LemmyLeft or LeftLemmy, I dunno which name to use. But still, I think they should consider making a left-unity instance for go against Lemmy-world and try to get the most amount of leftists, socialists, communists, tankies, Anarchists, etc as possible.
I don't think it is sectarianism, it is more like "unitedfrontism" for do not say otherwise. We need to do unite ourselves and do actual opposition to the Lemmy-world, because that is what class struggle is about, or better, a digital class struggle. But keep in mind I am not saying for brigading nor anything like that, but rather a "Lemmy Cold War" between Lemmy-World and a hypothetical LemmyLeft/LeftLemmy.
TLDR: Basically the moderators of Hexbear/Lemmygrad should consider making a Left-Unity United Front instance for deal with the far-rightism from Lemmy-world.
I hope this kind of post is allowed here, but plz, mods, take it as a suggestion, plz.
- Showhttps://xkcd.com/927
Also, I think socialist-socdem unity is folly. Socialists want to abolish private ownership of the means of production, while socdems want reforms under capitalism.
Exactly. Don't want to unify with fascists, not even the moderate wing of fascism.
There are times and places for making tactical alliances with them, but unity ain’t in the cards.
The United Front is a strategy employed by organizations which subordinate class struggle towards a specific goal--typically this is war goal: anti-Japan united front, anti-fascist united front, etc. It must temper itself to follow the revolutionary line, to know when to enter into alliances, and when the break them--"to fall back the better to leap forward;" to avoid the errors of opportunism, and outright capitulation... That's all good & obvious, but it leads to the corollary: why are we talking about an internet forum as if it were the Communist Party? It's not and can never be! You're just confusing terms here, 'digital class struggle' is an absurd concept, and whatever concrete truth this was amalgamated from has no bearing whatsoever on running an internet forum. Its like our organizing is so anemic, our practice so non-existent, that out of sheer desperation many would rather invent phantasms than to confront the daunting task of starting anew.
Any instance that lemmyworld thinks is made by anyone here or linked to Hexbear will be defederated by them immediately. I'm not convinced that they wouldn't defederate literally anything that is remotely leftist regardless of ties to us. They are incapable of tolerating anything to the left of them.
so we should just announce we're federating to everything they're federated with to isolate them harder than those libs that preemptively defederated from us? (but not actually federate with everything they're federated with because there's so much fucking sewage there)
this is liberal idealism and incredibly naive. But if you want to pay me to do it sure.
Leftist agitation only works to the extent you’re allowed to agitate. Since lemmy mods can choose to ban users and defederate instances arbitrarily, the ability to agitate is effectively eliminated. That’s a good thing for us, because it means we can keep our own instances free from right-wing trolls and agitators, but other instances are similarly insulated from outside interference.
If you wanna terminally-online agitate, you gotta make alts on their terf
https://hexbear.net/post/1734857
an LLM trained on hexbear posts and full text theory books would do the trick
I mentioned elsewhere that one need not worry about hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, or lemmy.ml defederating from each other in the foreseeable future, but it’s not my place to further elaborate on that unity.
Hexbears are busy trying to become the most isolated and insular community in the fediverse, which is basically the opposite of what you're suggesting. If you make it Hexbear will just defed from it anyway.
We should all meet up and do the socialism dance to intimidate liberals.
midwest.social exists? It's a left unity server afaik, and not even totally exclusively just midwest residents, nobody made me prove my address when I registered. It's also federated with many of the places that reflexively blocked Hexbear.
The local community is inactive/slow compared to Hexbear, which is why I hang here instead, but it's got good people and is worth checking out! jack@hexbear.net is the lifeblood of /c/ohio@midwest.social, so you know it's quality posting, even if the quantity sucks because it's not super active.
