It's also pretty well understood that fruit is a slur, when it's used in that context. This is actually a fantastic example, because there is so little difference between the terms. Both are extremely harmless words with normal meanings commonly used in everyday conversation, with extremely antiquated and niche uses as slurs which some nerds here are for some reason bringing up and dwelling on when the terms are used in a context in which they are obviously not slurs.
the term isn't reappropriatable, and there's no real reason to not just come up with a different way to refer to the cia. we can come up with something else. the only reasonable manner the term is used in a normal meaning would be like "this guy spooked me" as if you got frightened.
There's no "reappropriation" here because the term's normal, harmless meanings have already been established for centuries. I'm not going to stop using a normal word because some racists also used that word in a different way several decades ago and never since.
fruit is something that refers to a major food group, a term that can get used in every day life. spooked literally the only normal harmless meaning is to be frightened which can also be replaced with scared. there is no reason to be insensitive about this subject except to be argumentative and stubborn.
Difficult to respond to unconstructive and insulting comments with anything constructive. When someone starts harassing people over nothing, I'm not the one being argumentative when I tell them to leave people alone. The argumentative side is the side perpetuating an argument over literally nothing.
I mean I've been here since /r/cth, I'm not bothered by silly internet arguments and I'm perfectly happy to take part. If it did actually bother me I'd just log off :gigachad:
and you can just say ghost. if we need a cool term to refer to the feds, we can just come up with something, or there's others. just even referring to them here, we put plenty of negative emphasis on their presence, we don't need to be insensitive to people who don't want to see a term that could make them remember some fucked up shit that happened in their past and calls back to an extremely negative time in history. i don't get why we have people be insensitive about this shit.
we don't let users get away with derisively referring to effeminate men as that, because it's fucked up. and we don't let people call people that here because it's racist, and context matters, but we don't let other people refer to others as the friendly use of the blatantly racist n word without a hard r either, despite them having different meanings entirely, because this isn't the place to battle that. there is no reappropriation that can occur nor is necessary as far as this term goes - and as repeated, the word fruit in the way it's meant to be used is an every day term. the word spook is not and is easily replaceable.
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Now that I think about it, "red" could be a slur for indigenous people so I'm pretty sure I should be tossed in the gulag for saying "red fruit"
“Using words in an everyday context is the same exact thing as referring to a person with the same words”
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there's a difference here. it's pretty well understood that it's a slur.
It's also pretty well understood that fruit is a slur, when it's used in that context. This is actually a fantastic example, because there is so little difference between the terms. Both are extremely harmless words with normal meanings commonly used in everyday conversation, with extremely antiquated and niche uses as slurs which some nerds here are for some reason bringing up and dwelling on when the terms are used in a context in which they are obviously not slurs.
the term isn't reappropriatable, and there's no real reason to not just come up with a different way to refer to the cia. we can come up with something else. the only reasonable manner the term is used in a normal meaning would be like "this guy spooked me" as if you got frightened.
There's no "reappropriation" here because the term's normal, harmless meanings have already been established for centuries. I'm not going to stop using a normal word because some racists also used that word in a different way several decades ago and never since.
fruit is something that refers to a major food group, a term that can get used in every day life. spooked literally the only normal harmless meaning is to be frightened which can also be replaced with scared. there is no reason to be insensitive about this subject except to be argumentative and stubborn.
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Difficult to respond to unconstructive and insulting comments with anything constructive. When someone starts harassing people over nothing, I'm not the one being argumentative when I tell them to leave people alone. The argumentative side is the side perpetuating an argument over literally nothing.
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I mean I've been here since /r/cth, I'm not bothered by silly internet arguments and I'm perfectly happy to take part. If it did actually bother me I'd just log off :gigachad:
oh shit we got an OG here, make way
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I definitely get that, I wasn't always good at logging off myself. But yeah, this one looks like it's staying pretty mild anyway.
i feel like you should be banned for being an asshole, and not like a cool asshole. just an asshole.
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and you can just say ghost. if we need a cool term to refer to the feds, we can just come up with something, or there's others. just even referring to them here, we put plenty of negative emphasis on their presence, we don't need to be insensitive to people who don't want to see a term that could make them remember some fucked up shit that happened in their past and calls back to an extremely negative time in history. i don't get why we have people be insensitive about this shit.
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we don't let users get away with derisively referring to effeminate men as that, because it's fucked up. and we don't let people call people that here because it's racist, and context matters, but we don't let other people refer to others as the friendly use of the blatantly racist n word without a hard r either, despite them having different meanings entirely, because this isn't the place to battle that. there is no reappropriation that can occur nor is necessary as far as this term goes - and as repeated, the word fruit in the way it's meant to be used is an every day term. the word spook is not and is easily replaceable.