:so-true: :funny-clown-hammer:

Edit: I’m not a lib! I’m not a lib!

https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy/status/1495488331509075969?s=21

  • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Having a big surplus of young people to care for the elderly is just another luxury of the old world that we will have to give up. I certainly don’t want anyone having kids just so they can wipe my ass later on. I guess what I mean to say is that I don’t feel entitled to it and I don’t think anyone else should either.

    • hwoarang [any]
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      3 years ago

      that's a very bleak view you hold

      people are entitled to a long safe and happy life, I've no doubt there's a time coming where that gets less and and less possible for more and more people, but that's a thing I believe with my heart and giving up on it is not an option

      • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I feel giving up on it should be considered if you care about the future generations that are going to be brought into this burning house we call an ecosystem.

        I mean fighting for a better world is great and all, but that doesn’t necessitate dragging another soul into existence to experience a declining, dying world.

        • hwoarang [any]
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          3 years ago

          I imagine we've both had this conversation a few times before and I don't particularly want to have it again. I sincerely hope you have a good day, brother.

          • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Who is telling me to have a good day. Show yourself coward, I will never have a good day. /s

            I know the doom and gloom is tiring but I think it’s important that we acknowledge reality. And where we’re heading as a species. And how that’s going to negatively affect future generations, let alone the people currently living. Perhaps the best thing is not to bring them into this hell to begin with. Sorry to push the issue or if I’m repeating myself too much.

              • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Ensuring that people live long healthy lives does not necessitate bringing more people into the world. You can still fight for the people already living. Perhaps we should think of those people first

                  • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    I don’t think anti-Natalism and the fight for change are mutually exclusive or opposed to one another. I disagree that being opposed to having kids means you’ve given up on the future entirely. But I think it’s going to take a miracle to save the species, and I wouldn’t want my kid’s lives to hinge on a miracle. If my kid asked me why I brought them into a dying world, I don’t think they would appreciate me saying that I did it on the off chance that humanity will start taking this seriously. Idk maybe I’m doing mental gymnastics here.

                    Once I see the countries of the world make serious and sufficient change to avert destruction, I’ll re-evaluate my outlook. Right now all I see is apathy and powerlessness amongst the portion of people who believe this is real. Then you have the other half who refuse to listen. It would demoralize any sane person, I would think anyway.

        • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Call me an edgelord and a doomer all you want. We all know we’re not going to adequately deal with this as a species. Not anytime soon.

      • Cowboyitis69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I agree that old people should be cared for lol.

        I just don’t think it’s a valid reason to keep a high birthrate. If we can’t figure out how to care for old people more efficiently with a smaller population of young people, then we kind of deserve to get steamrolled by ecological collapse.