BREAKING: PUTIN ANNOUNCES RUSSIA RECOGNIZES THE INDEPENDENCE OF LPR AND DPR -- (*Meaning Russia no longer recognizes LPR and DPR as Ukrainian territory, paving way for possible military assistance or peacekeeping; and/or protection of its 700k citizens living there. - *ASB) pic.twitter.com/B5zLCXLH5K— ASB News / MILITARY〽️ (@ASBMilitary) February 21, 2022
Consider the overwhelming cultural similarity between Russians and Ukrainians and the complete lack of similarities between Americans and Ukrainians
Also consider the power balance in the world: America is like 3x more powerful than Russia geopolitically. To say literally "neither Washington nor Moscow" is to support Washington implicitly: neutrality is nothing more than supporting the winning side
If you watch a bully beat up a kid and pledge neutrality, who are you really supporting? If you watch the kid fight back and condemn the kid's actions, who are you really supporting?
Remember the fucking fall of the USSR and the crimes, atrocities that followed. Russia is the little kid fighting back against the bully in every shape and form. You condemn Russia because they are giving America a bloody nose, after Russia was raped (both figuratively and literally), torn apart, and dismantled. America deserves no influence, no influence at all in Eastern Europe.
Give me a fucking reason why the analogy of bully vs victim doesn't work here. Give me an actual argument rather than plain assertions.
Explain to me why Russia isn't the bullied here. America literally tried to dismantle Russia in its entirety. Russia is simply taking back what was once theirs.
Do you not know anything about the fall of the USSR? Do you not know about the Russian cross? Do you not know about anything related to Eastern Europe? I suggest you look at a map of the world before declaring that Russia is no more fit to influence Ukraine than America, halfway across the world.
There is no reason for America to be in Eastern Europe at all. Period. Asserting otherwise means you are supporting American imperialism. And if you do, you are no comrade of mine.
Well there is the Minsk deal as an alternative diplomatic solution and route thats already signed by Ukraine. Oh wait they shitted every day for the last 7 years ? Nevertheless
Who gets to decide if this is Russian occupation vs actual peacekeeping? DNR/LNR are both Russian speaking countries that have under attack by Ukrainian neo-nazis for almost a decade.
Ukraine could try, but they already got slapped in 2014, don't think the comedian is that suicidal, especially his citizens and the Ukraine economy is in shamble. Likely going down proxy war with Ukraine Nazi back by the west against the two republic back by Russia
This is going to end in a hot civil war if Putin doesn't back down.
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There are alternatives than stanning for Biden or Putin on the Ukraine crisis.
Neither leader has the Ukrainian people's interests at heart.
Consider the overwhelming cultural similarity between Russians and Ukrainians and the complete lack of similarities between Americans and Ukrainians
Also consider the power balance in the world: America is like 3x more powerful than Russia geopolitically. To say literally "neither Washington nor Moscow" is to support Washington implicitly: neutrality is nothing more than supporting the winning side
I'm sorry, but not supporting Russia in escalating a civil war is not supporting the United States implicitly.
Cultural similarity isn't a reason to invade a country.
If you watch a bully beat up a kid and pledge neutrality, who are you really supporting? If you watch the kid fight back and condemn the kid's actions, who are you really supporting?
You can't break down the Ukraine crisis into a simple analogy.
You also can't describe this conflict as if it's just Great Man Theory lol.
Remember the fucking fall of the USSR and the crimes, atrocities that followed. Russia is the little kid fighting back against the bully in every shape and form. You condemn Russia because they are giving America a bloody nose, after Russia was raped (both figuratively and literally), torn apart, and dismantled. America deserves no influence, no influence at all in Eastern Europe.
Again, analogies don't work for this.
What exactly are you talking about?
"Analogies don't work for this"
Give me a fucking reason why the analogy of bully vs victim doesn't work here. Give me an actual argument rather than plain assertions.
Explain to me why Russia isn't the bullied here. America literally tried to dismantle Russia in its entirety. Russia is simply taking back what was once theirs.
Do you not know anything about the fall of the USSR? Do you not know about the Russian cross? Do you not know about anything related to Eastern Europe? I suggest you look at a map of the world before declaring that Russia is no more fit to influence Ukraine than America, halfway across the world.
There is no reason for America to be in Eastern Europe at all. Period. Asserting otherwise means you are supporting American imperialism. And if you do, you are no comrade of mine.
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Marching troops into disputed land is not an escalation?
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Well there is the Minsk deal as an alternative diplomatic solution and route thats already signed by Ukraine. Oh wait they shitted every day for the last 7 years ? Nevertheless
Yeah. This is literally an escalation by fascists. Hilarious to see libs bending over backwards to justify more blood for the military.
A reading of the timeline would make this better described as a response to escalation.
Honestly, Russia officially allying/occupying DNR/LNR would at least mean people there can live their lives without daily ceasefire violations.
In terms of regular life, I think this is the most peaceful outcome.
The Ukrainian civil war isn't going to end with Russian occupation.
Who gets to decide if this is Russian occupation vs actual peacekeeping? DNR/LNR are both Russian speaking countries that have under attack by Ukrainian neo-nazis for almost a decade.
Same kind of peacekeeping the US engages in without any international support?
I don't think I understand what you meant, could you explain? Are you saying the US should decide?
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Correct.
Earlier the Ukrainians sent mercenary forces on recon onto Russian soil, they're literally asking to get denazified.
And Ukraines already denying they tried that lol. Like where'd the 2 destroyed vehicles and 5 dead bodies come from then? Space?
just spawned in like a Bethesda game
Ukraine could try, but they already got slapped in 2014, don't think the comedian is that suicidal, especially his citizens and the Ukraine economy is in shamble. Likely going down proxy war with Ukraine Nazi back by the west against the two republic back by Russia