• DengXixian [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The solution is regional peacekeeping or international peacekeeping. Not an invasion and a proxy war.

    The UN has extremely limited credibility in Eastern Europe after the 90s, so international peacekeeping effectively doesn't exist and is, to be blunt, a euphemism for imperialist genocide. What does regional peacekeeping look like to you, NATO? Germany? If Germany, why shouldn't Russia be involved with those efforts?

    • cawsby [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Mutual defense pacts among Eastern Europe are possible outside the NATO framework.

      • DengXixian [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Sure, I can follow that. Do these defense pacts already exist then or are they hypothetical? If they do exist, why hasn't The Ukraine activated them?

        • cawsby [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          There are a few but no one obviously wants to form a new one with Ukraine atm.

          The question is whether those organizations themselves can send representatives. It has happened before in some African countries.

          • DengXixian [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            There are a few but no one obviously wants to form a new one with Ukraine atm.

            Okay, so then these defense pacts don't sound like a viable alternative to Russian intervention. I feel like I'm missing something here?

            The question is whether those organizations themselves can send representatives. It has happened before in some African countries.

            Which organizations? I'm confused, the eastern European defense pacts sent representatives to African countries? Were these diplomats or actual military?

            • cawsby [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              The African Union uses peacekeepers from other countries in the AU when two countries are in conflict. In theory the EU could do the same but the Ukraine is not part of the EU.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-UN_peacekeeping_missions

              • DengXixian [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                So then what are you suggesting? I thought this was supposed to be an alternative to US or Russian intervention, but it doesn't sound like political reality.

                • cawsby [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  How can any diplomatic solution be a political reality now? Russia has invaded.

                  All that is out of the window now.