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  • kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I used to go to this weekly Marxist thing and every fucking time some weird ass Ben Shapiro nerd would show up to debate us. Like, a different one each time. We'd usually just bully them for trying to debate us while not even knowing the literature, just dumb assumptions from conservative media

    Me n the bf convinced one of them that Marxists and libertarians should be friends if you follow the logic through. We hate the government and so do you, lmfao

    • buh [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      it's Ben Shapiro with a different fake moustache and glasses every time

          • kristina [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Also technically its better to talk to someone and find things in common rather than start adversarial. Obviously, don't do this with Nazis and stuff but libertarians are just high on their own supply

            • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah there's the "just disaffected with american politics" ones and the Rothbard ones, and one is possible to help

              • Ploumeister [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                For real There is seriously the ability for a libertarian to leftist pipeline, thanks to Americans purposely lacking any political education it’s very easy for someone with no real ideology but is actively disenfranchised by capitalism to see “wow our government is deeply corrupt and does not serve our interests” and think okay well obviously the solution is to dissolve or minimize it and some may also believe that corporations must be broken up too. But because the left has little presence on mainstream political discourse libertarians/conservatives fill that whole perfectly with their deep anti-government complaining, occasionally co-opting of leftist language and “corpratism” bs but those who don’t subscribe very deeply to the unfettered capitalism and reactionary parts of libertarianism can easily be educated on how capitalism can actively encourages everything that is disenfranchising them, and class dynamics etc… that is if they are willing to engage in good faith and all that but it’s at least worth a shot.

                • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Even if you don't see any immediate change, even showing them the non-propaganda version of communism and communists might plant some seeds. I can trace my leftward trajectory all the way back to a single moment over 20 years ago so who knows?

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      We would occasionally get weirdo debate people when I worked with Food Not Bombs, because sometimes we'd have a sign or someone would be wearing a shirt with a political slogan. I had a sickle and hammer pin that got me yelled at one time. One time we had a sign that said "no war in Iran" and a guy tried debating with about how war with Iran was necessary because in his words "they did 9/11"

      One time a guy at a mall yelled at me for my pin because his dad died in the Korean War, then he tried calling the cops on me lmao

      • kristina [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        One time a guy at a mall yelled at me for my pin because his dad died in the Korean War, then he tried calling the cops on me lmao

        We like winners not losers folks