Being told this is fairly reliable for info on the situation in Ukraine. let me know if it isn’t. https://liveuamap.com/ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg?pictrs

  • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I was initially against the invasion, and still am, but my position has rapidly shifted to hoping for the fastest possible Russian victory to minimise civilian casualties. The longer the Ukraine fights, the more Ukrainian Volkssturm die unnecessarily. I will admit also that seeing a Warsaw Pact based army see success would give me great satisfaction as I would be able to lord it over my chud colleagues, but that sort of shit is more secondary and I certainly wouldn't want a war just to prove that.

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is basically my position too. Ordinary Ukrainians are literally being held hostage by their crooked nationalist leaders (for such a devoted Ukrainian nationalist Zelensky sure does host a lot of money offshore in tax havens through dummy corporations). Not just in the geopolitical sense, but literally when they decided to bar teenagers and pensioners alike from fleeing the violence, pulling them off buses, and forcing them to head back into the violence with no training.

      The faster those self-serving scum are pushed to some sense of reason and humility, or destroyed if that's what it comes to, the better.

      • Vncredleader
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        3 years ago

        Wonderfully said. NATO, social fascists, literal fascists are cheering on continued war cause they want a "cool" story like the forest brothers or the Finns in the winter war. they dont care what those things actually believed, or how many regular people will die needlessly. This shit is monstrous, and they are using an evil invasion as pretext to fucking set the standard of civilians as combatants and that you have to cheer on whatever conflict NATO wants. They already do that, but it hasn't been this flagrant in Europe proper since Yugoslavia.

        It is like Syria with even more punditry which is a very scary thought for human rights abuses

    • WujHuj [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Was the reference to Nazi militias really necessary? Dehumanization is happening on both ends, but the majority off Ukrainians fighting right now are not Neo-Nazis. Are there Neo-Nazi elements in the country sure, but to paint Ukrainian citizens dying as some "Volkssturm" is very unnecessary.

      • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I understand, but the point is to illustrate the futility and desperation of the government's actions and not to paint Ukrainians as Nazis, which is reductive.

        • WujHuj [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The issue is that if he gives in too much, the next president elected might be more antagonistic to Russia, which would be counterproductive in this regard. People have lost their homes, family members, etc. and they want revenge. The best compromise would be to address the issue off Eastern Ukraine through a referendum or giving them autonomous status as the current structure off Ukraine has the oblasts having minimal power over their goverance.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The Ukrainian government is tweeting in support of Azov coating bullets in lard to shoot at Chechan "orcs".

        I don't know what clearer evidence there could be that the Nazi rot has reached the roots of the tree.

        https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497?t=cAwrICy7mCM38DZiOitWZw&s=19