Yep anybody who doesn’t denounce their fascist past if it’s brought up hasn’t left it behind
yea theyre just a troll. the one where they called it the ukraine tipped me off lol
"You're calling me a fascist? How bigoted of you, I'm not a fascist I'm a nationalist. So much for the tolerant left."
Fascists have always lied and coopted progressive language. They feel immense power hiding inside social justice language like this and they do it both consciously and completely shamelessly.
Unfortunately certain forms of more Liberal Social Justice language is extremely easy to coopt because it’s tied to identity and experience. So they just need a black or Jewish fascist as cover and they can smuggle in whatever they want
Seeing ND weaponized to defend white supremacy is infuriating.
One of the arguments 'Alexis' made was that it's ableist and that the person arguing with them is trying to get the OP cancelled. It's like they're trying to pretend to be a leftist but can't entirely drop right wing lingo, lol.
Also most neurodiverse people don't go through a nazi phase because nazis want us fucking dead
People can change though. I was basically a psychopath when I was a teenager through no real fault of my own. Fell down the chud pipeline for a while but escaped fairly quickly, but not without saying some terrible things first. Now I'm someone people feel safe and comfortable around. If someone brought up something I said or did to them in that time (which has happened) all I can do is apologise and assure them that it won't happen again.
No offense but neither of you could have gone through a Nazi phrase based on physical appearance alone.
:tito-laugh: good :pit:
i do think people should be able to put this sort of thing behind them because they alternative is people being forced to stay neo-nazis which I don't think we want
I don't trust them mainly because they use the political compass. Also that's too many ideologies for someone who I am suspecting may be a stupid teenager to have legitimately had any involvement in
Definitely. We ought to be encouraging people to self-critique their beliefs, and should welcome anyone who has realized that being a fascist/ancap/whatever is monstrous. However, there's an open question as to what genuinely "moving on" from the ideology looks like. I think it's reasonable to be skeptical and critical of people for whom reform looks like anything but something like "I was very, very wrong and I'm working every day to undo the harm I did both to individuals around me and society at large." Responding defensively to mentions of your past beliefs, or excusing your past beliefs with "well whatever, lots of people used to want to summarily execute people with disabilities, I've moved on" is a huge red flag that you actually haven't engaged in the rigorous self-critique necessary to come to terms with the harm you've done.
