It also does that trope where it has the revolutionary "villain" fighting to expose the systemic corruption be/act so unhinged and do evil things as to give justification that their critiques are wrong. It's a really well made, entertaining movie, but it's themes are just such weak centrist bs that I couldn't ignore it.

I wrote about it more in-depth here if you're interested: https://letterboxd.com/peytobrock/film/the-batman/

EDIT: this is a write-up by a critic I really like that's even better than what I wrote: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63389248

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    It’s almost like they want us to think those ideas are bad

    I've heard secondhand (i think they heard it) from the West Wing Thing that a lot of writers are somewhat leftist so they try to sneak their ideas in where they can, but that would be very stupid for that very reason... So, it's probably true.

    • mark213686123 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      traditionally when writing a history the author would represent both sides as having part of their political views and use the speeches to express them.

      This is notably what Milton was doing with paradise lost

        • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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          3 years ago

          Here is my villain Hiruto X Hans, he does a lengthy speech about Social Darwinism on a war altar of zombified salary men. Am I critiquing neoliberal "meritocracy" or am I celebrating fascism? Who can say, anyway, our hero Battle Suit Makoto refutes his speech by having more fighting spirit

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Art in general trends left, but like everything else, capital subsumes and twists everything it can and overwhelms everything else

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          when all lesbians are doomed to tragedy because two girls are literally forbidden to have a happy ending, you may as well root for the badass lesbian girlboss villain who at least doesn't have to go through the pain of having her girlfriend murdered.

          • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            when all lesbians are doomed to tragedy because two girls are literally forbidden to have a happy ending

            Counterpoint: Harley and Ivy