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  • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Maddow has been scratched.

    The weirdest thing from 2016-present is that my MSNBC-watching anti-Bush “hippie” mom has become full warhawk and Trump/Russia deranged, while my conservative religious dad has become an anti-NATO socialist.

    They divorced long ago, but I think this is emblematic of a couple demographics in the US. Democrats have gone full jingo and warmonger, while people like my dad have become alienated and gained empathy for the world

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Kind of reminds me of me. I went from a /pol/ posting crypto-fash to a comrade today. Dunno if it's the same trajectory but it feels like it.

      • Mother [any]
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        3 years ago

        Hot take but I feel like a certain type of chud is easier to convert than a liberal. Americans have no coherent political ideology, and the chud at least acknowledges that something is wrong.

        • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          It feels that way. Chuds recognize there's a problem but their solution is fascism. At baseline you can agree that things are broken, but you need to strip away the capitalism brainworms. Libs are true believers and think everything is fine or if there's a problem, it's Russia's fault.

      • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        It’s a bit different because my dad’s views were always very humanistic, just with a religious and paternalistic tinge before that he eventually outgrew. I think he always had empathy and just grew up in rural Idaho so had a lot of ideological conditioning to work through.

        Fash are not nearly as wholesome. Sorry to say, but they openly delight in pain and suffering. The basis of the fascist ideology is not very compatible with the more well-intentioned conservatism