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  • WalterBongjammin [they/them,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Overlooking that they killed communists, sexual minorities, etc., which is in itself disgusting. 'Jews aren't real Germans' is literally one of the key ideas used by the Nazis to justify the holocaust. In fact, it was its legal basis within the fascist state. Liberalism and fascism were always on a continuum, but this war has absolutely collapsed the distinction

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "Say what you will about Hitler, but at least he kept those bloodlines pure! Putin has no regard for the Aryan Menschen."

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Oh no, no, you see, we're not seeing the whole quote. Which is just as bad, but blah blah blah liberal bullshit.

  • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Maddow has been scratched.

    The weirdest thing from 2016-present is that my MSNBC-watching anti-Bush “hippie” mom has become full warhawk and Trump/Russia deranged, while my conservative religious dad has become an anti-NATO socialist.

    They divorced long ago, but I think this is emblematic of a couple demographics in the US. Democrats have gone full jingo and warmonger, while people like my dad have become alienated and gained empathy for the world

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Kind of reminds me of me. I went from a /pol/ posting crypto-fash to a comrade today. Dunno if it's the same trajectory but it feels like it.

      • Mother [any]
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        3 years ago

        Hot take but I feel like a certain type of chud is easier to convert than a liberal. Americans have no coherent political ideology, and the chud at least acknowledges that something is wrong.

        • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          It feels that way. Chuds recognize there's a problem but their solution is fascism. At baseline you can agree that things are broken, but you need to strip away the capitalism brainworms. Libs are true believers and think everything is fine or if there's a problem, it's Russia's fault.

      • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        It’s a bit different because my dad’s views were always very humanistic, just with a religious and paternalistic tinge before that he eventually outgrew. I think he always had empathy and just grew up in rural Idaho so had a lot of ideological conditioning to work through.

        Fash are not nearly as wholesome. Sorry to say, but they openly delight in pain and suffering. The basis of the fascist ideology is not very compatible with the more well-intentioned conservatism

  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    He did though, a shitload of Germans died fighting his doomed ass war lmao

    • Civility [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      And, more to the point, all the gay, disabled, jewish and communist Germans who the Nazis wanted dead just as much as, if not more than the rest of their "untermensch".

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      say what you will about hitler but he got a lot of white people killed

      obligatory :fedposting:

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Always tickles me how WhiteNats worshipping the guy who turned Europe into a crater which only recovered after being indebted to the "Jew-controlled" Yanks is several layers of cognitive dissonance.

  • Tervell [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Oh, have we started manufacturing consent for why slaughtering socialists and activists (and probably trans people) actually doesn't count since they're "un-American" already? Man, things move fast these days.

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    3 years ago

    issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding Nazi Germany. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Apparently she meant this in the context of specifically the annexation of the Sudetenland, but frankly that is a hilariously charitable take on Hitler.

    I actually do wonder how Hitler treated the "ethnically German" communists and people with disabilities there though. He'd already dealt with socialists and communists, and the T4 program was deferred due to being way too publicly visible and unpopular.

  • a_maoist_quetzal [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Meanwhile in not baby brain land, the nazis literally bombed a mental hospital with an airplane to get rid of "undesirables"

  • P1d40n3 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Oh shit, these idiots are going to drag us into a World War.

  • Mike_Penis [any]
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    3 years ago

    why does that even matter? is she trying to say putin is worse than hitler?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That seems to be the narrative. Meanwhile George Bush is living rich and free.