• PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      9 months ago

      I wish these Democrats would ask a Communist once, just once, what they think about post-USSR Russia. It is blatantly clear they are operating in sloganeering-mode. They know Communism has a negative connotation in the US and think by branding everything they hate as Communism they can achieve short-term political victories. It isn't even a matter of historical illiteracy (even though they are drowning in their illiteracy). They simply don't care one way or another. Instead of engaging in political education, or educating themselves, they'd rather just lean into typical American misconceptions about history. They are deeply unserious people.

      The Soviet Union was buried the year I was born, and all these motherfuckers can do is run on Cold War tropes which are older than I am.

      NGL though, I can see why fascists like Jackson Hinckle see the Republicans as fertile ground when Liberals act like this.

      • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        They are 100% advertising-brained and anything beyond slogans and "optics" is completely lost on them.

        • KnilAdlez [none/use name]
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          9 months ago

          It is unknown if Lincoln read the letters or replied.

          I'm confused, isnt Lincolns reply (or the ambassador's reply that Lincoln agreed with) below Marx's letter on the webpage?

          • Vncredleader
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            9 months ago

            The office responded with a little "thank you" which was from John Quincy Adams' son. That was all. Lincoln almost certainly did not read let alone vet each response to election congratulations. I have no idea why people keep saying they corresponded or are "pen pals". If Lincoln read anything Marx wrote it would be his articles for Horace Greenly who Lincoln loved and read constantly, but that's about it. it's a small thing but how this one factoid has become an entrenched exaggeration bugs me

            • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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              9 months ago

              i think it's because we learn much of history as regional vertical slices and stuff happening around the same time or figures being contemporary doesn't come through to the casual student.

            • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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              9 months ago

              Oh my god, thank you. I'm also tired of how it gets phrased. Marx and Lincoln didn't have correspondence. Marx sent him a congratulations letter because he admired Lincoln. The reply was generic and probably something sent to everyone who sent a congratulations. Lincoln probably got hundreds of thousands of similar letters and it's highly unlikely he saw Marx's letter or even knew about it.

              You're right, if he knew of Marx it would have been through the New-York Tribune. There's a good chance that Lincoln read Marx's coverage of the Crimean War, since it was basically the only coverage in English available to Americans.