NEW: Details on the possible Russia-Ukraine deal

– Russia ceases fire and withdraws – Ukrainian "neutrality" without Nato – Kyiv keeps its army but can't host foreign bases – Russian gets legal status in Ukraine

  • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Not true whatsoever. Putin was pushed into this corner by the CIA/US imperialists creating massive far right militant buildups on his border. This is entirely CIA top bottom and center.

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      One of the most powerful men on earth, in control of one of the strongest military forces on earth, had his hand forced. Very plausible.

      • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Do you know what NATO is? Do you know what a knife to the throat is?

        • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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          3 years ago

          Nations don't have throats, only people do. NATO is a force that is good at bullying non-nuclear nations smaller than 20M people or with a GDP less than $250B.

          There were at least 2 or 3 responsive options for the Russian state; it's rather dishonest to say that there was only one option.

          Alternatively, since apparently we're talking in condescending and loaded non sequiturs now: Do you know what a bully is?