• Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Wasn't there some Greek philosopher who basically wanted this? I forget his name.

    Edit: I was thinking of Thomas More. What I wanted to say was, "Thomas More has entered the chat" but I couldn't remember who I was thinking of lol.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Plato's Republic maybe. He wasn't a big fan of Athens' democracy and thought it would be better if they had a dictator raised from birth for the job.

      Sparta also stands out, because the slave class (Helots) were almost all owned by the kings, but Spartan citizens had a really strong welfare state for themselves built on the back of all that slave labor.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Nah, the guy I'm thinking of had this idea for a utopian society and he had a lot of ideas that were pretty cool and ahead of his time, but then he was just like, foreigners will volunteer to be slaves just so they can be a part of this society, and they'll do all the work. Existential Comics did a comic about him.

        Edit: My mistake, it wasn't a Greek philosopher, it was Thomas More

        • Ziege_Bock [any]
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          3 years ago

          It does line up with a sentiment in Aristophanes' Assemblywomen

          Praxagora: I want all to have a share of everything and all property to be in common; there will no longer be either rich or poor; I shall begin by making land, money, everything that is private property, common to all.

          Blepyrus: But who will till the soil?

          Praxagora: The slaves.

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Tbh I've had the same thought. Meme level understandings of philosophers/philosophy can do more harm than good. Still ok sometimes tho.

      • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Sparta is the social democratic dream, except the slaves are in other countries so you don't have to think about them