• CrimsonSage [any]
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    3 years ago

    Slavery is literally bad for you economically in the long run in vicky2, why would you want to keep it. Also the CSA fucking sucks it's the shittier USA which is already boring as hell to play.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Wasn't there some Greek philosopher who basically wanted this? I forget his name.

    Edit: I was thinking of Thomas More. What I wanted to say was, "Thomas More has entered the chat" but I couldn't remember who I was thinking of lol.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Plato's Republic maybe. He wasn't a big fan of Athens' democracy and thought it would be better if they had a dictator raised from birth for the job.

      Sparta also stands out, because the slave class (Helots) were almost all owned by the kings, but Spartan citizens had a really strong welfare state for themselves built on the back of all that slave labor.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Nah, the guy I'm thinking of had this idea for a utopian society and he had a lot of ideas that were pretty cool and ahead of his time, but then he was just like, foreigners will volunteer to be slaves just so they can be a part of this society, and they'll do all the work. Existential Comics did a comic about him.

        Edit: My mistake, it wasn't a Greek philosopher, it was Thomas More

        • Ziege_Bock [any]
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          3 years ago

          It does line up with a sentiment in Aristophanes' Assemblywomen

          Praxagora: I want all to have a share of everything and all property to be in common; there will no longer be either rich or poor; I shall begin by making land, money, everything that is private property, common to all.

          Blepyrus: But who will till the soil?

          Praxagora: The slaves.

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Tbh I've had the same thought. Meme level understandings of philosophers/philosophy can do more harm than good. Still ok sometimes tho.

      • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Sparta is the social democratic dream, except the slaves are in other countries so you don't have to think about them

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    slaves are so bad in vicky 2. you want free assimilated pops, which you will gwt from freeing slaves. all you do is hurt your economy for the confederate RP

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      That's collectivish ownership of foreign slaves