• hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The second tweet in the thread says as much:

      Humanity will struggle to adapt to the Pliocene*-like temperatures and rainfall of a new, hostile climate by the 2030s/2040s.

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Let me rephrase it better, when will climate change hurt anglo countries enough for people to notice? I know the global south is already feeling the effects but right now westerners do not give a shit and life still goes on relatively normal.

        • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          heck of a question here's two annoying possible answers: (1) people in Anglo countries already do notice but they are either actually helpless or are in learned helplessness. (2) people might still think everything's normal when they're living in nuclear-air-conditioned hives and everyone in Bangladesh has drowned. Humans are adaptable and very good at denial.

          Things in the global north might get so hairy that things fall apart entirely (and, again, from a historical perspective it looks a lot like this is already happening) or people might take an incredible hit to their material conditions if the alternative is dying like in the global south, i dunno. looks bad

        • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          my out-of-the-ass answer is that materially comfortable people at or near retirement age are only going to get interested when their access to treats and services are limited. if they recognize the connection to climate change or even engage with any non-hegemonic discourse about why is anyone's guess.

          for younger working people, I can only imagine there will be a crescendo of alienation from being denied a future despite being expected to work in a meaningless job. gas/energy prices rising while temperates become increasingly variable/unstable compared to historic norma, crop failures/food shortages, unprecedented floods overwhelming decaying infrastructure disrupting regional logistics and exacerbating internal migration dumping gas on the housing crisis.

          my gut says before 2030 we're going to have a 3 week heat wave and grid blackout that kills a million people in the PNW or the great lakes or east Texas.

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          When the treats stop flowing, at which point they will turn to fascism. That heat dome in the PNW last year killed 1000 people. Every year, towns in California burn to ash. Nobody cares.