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insert Parenti quote about how whatever the Soviets did, it would always be interpreted as evil

from here - https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/tiizbt/russias_elite_wants_to_eliminate_putin_they_have/i1ec0fd/

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      vor 3 Jahren

      They work very well for the few handfuls of oligarchs who runs this system.

    • Tervell [he/him]
      hexagon
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      vor 3 Jahren

      don't you know? the slavic brainpan is only capable of deception, which is why we can credibly claim that anything Russians do is actually a ploy (except when Ukrainians say something, we can be sure they are totally honest and never lie, because, uh, ... reasons)

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    vor 3 Jahren

    During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative.

    If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

    If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    vor 3 Jahren

    I wish people were able to process this stuff as something other than like a struggle of good versus evil. No it couldn't be that large states want stability, it couldn't be that NATO and Russian interests aligned over the "war on terror", it must be that Putin is an agent of chaos who just wants to do a bit of mischief.

  • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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    vor 3 Jahren

    "He's always needed the west as a unifying threat" says this Redditor as the the US is literally sacrificing Ukraine so that NATO can be "unified" against the threat of the "barbarian hordes" to the East. And that small matter of the US using this as an opportunity to force the EU to pivot economically, that too

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    vor 3 Jahren

    I mean, Russia joining the alliance built specifically to encircle and oppress Russia would kinda destroy that alliance from within by destroying its reason for existing.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    vor 3 Jahren

    it's so fucking deranged like obviously putin's not an anti-imperialist but these pricks are somehow convinced that he is. they're bigger tankies than most M-Ls.

  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    vor 3 Jahren

    insert Parenti quote about how whatever the Soviets did, it would always be interpreted as evil

    even if they're not soviets anymore. That's how delusional the libs are. They destroyed their enemy, turned them into a mirror, and are still mad. I love the old joke that Fascism means getting what you want and still crying about it.

  • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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    vor 3 Jahren

    lmao accurate description of how US controls NATO and the exact reason why the US didn't let Russia join, just swap out 'he' for The US and 'the west' for russia and bam, correct analysis