fuck trump but please do it.

  • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
    hexbear
    69
    3 months ago

    There is no way he actually does this. The national security state would never tolerate any serious attempt at dismantling the foreign policy doctrines that are their officially stated reason for being.

    • huf [he/him]
      hexbear
      33
      3 months ago

      what would it even mean? NATO is the US. if the US leaves, NATO goes with it.

      it's like threatening to leave your own nose behind.

    • jackmarxist [any]
      hexbear
      26
      3 months ago

      He might actually do it because nato officials are also attacking him now. His ego is way too big. He'll Atleast try to do it before he gets JFKed

      • SkingradGuard [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 months ago

        before he gets JFKed

        It would be funny if Biden dies during the debate, then Trump gets JFK'd

      • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Why would they go that far though? They have to have blackmail on him for something that he cares enough to not want released. I always imagine these people, being the institutionalists they are, would go for subtle approaches like blackmail when it comes to getting what they want.

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
      hexbear
      25
      3 months ago

      They didn’t let him do it during the first term, they won’t during the second.

      • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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        edit-2
        3 months ago

        That's why I'm confident they won't let him try to do it a second time. I imagine they have to have gotten better at managing his behavior to get the outcomes they want.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
          hexbear
          25
          3 months ago

          “We were always playing shell games to not make clear to our leadership how many troops we had there,” Jeffrey said in an interview. The actual number of troops in northeast Syria is “a lot more than” the roughly two hundred troops Trump initially agreed to leave there in 2019...

          Officially, Trump last year agreed to keep several hundred U.S. troops — somewhere between 200 and 400, according to varying reports at the time — stationed in northeast Syria to “secure” oil fields held by the United States’ Kurdish allies in the fight against ISIS. It is generally accepted that the actual number is now higher than that — anonymous officials put the number at about 900 today — but the precise figure is classified and remains unknown even, it appears, to members of Trump’s administration keen to end the so-called “forever wars.”

          https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/

          Their method of managing his behavior was simply lying to him lmao

          • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            That would have to be the first layer, lying by legal word play or omission. There must have been a lot of insubordination from the lifetime bureaucrats during his last tenure to do that. Blackmail could be the next layer, which I would imagine would stop anything else they couldn't get by just lying to him.

            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
              hexbear
              11
              3 months ago

              And you only really need to pull out stuff beyond lying for issues he's really fixated on, which varies from little to nothing, at least abroad.

              • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]
                hexbear
                10
                3 months ago

                Yep. I think it's especially useful for them to have a populist politician that can put his seal of approval on any of their legacy policy proposals.

  • @robinn_IV
    hexbear
    37
    3 months ago

    NATO is job creation. Trump says he will help the economy but what about all those Nazi generals he’ll put on unemployment?

    • culpritus [any]
      hexbear
      26
      3 months ago

      Democracy truly is the art of the possible.

  • SkingradGuard [he/him]
    hexbear
    30
    3 months ago

    Trump leaves NATO just to recreate SEATO to go to war with China faster than the dems that want to take out Russia first then move onto china agony-deep

  • @TimeTravel_0
    hexbear
    27
    3 months ago

    the dang cheeto in the white house is gonna wreck our hegemony, wont anybody think of the economy!

    :boohoo:

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    23
    3 months ago

    i can never remember the phrasing on that quote about how "the reason for NATO's existence is to deal with the consequences of NATO's existence." i can't find it either.

    • tripartitegraph [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      11
      3 months ago

      I like on trueanon when they said it was to "keep the russians out, the germans down, and the americans in"

  • MaxOS [he/him, any]
    hexbear
    13
    3 months ago

    They want so bad for this to become a bigger deal than Joe’s mental decline.