Even the wiki article doesn't try the ridiculous stunt of faulting the nomenclature while skirting intent ('it's not genocide because it's *******cide instead!')

I wasn't really saying it was a victory that wiki wasn't just outright claiming it was a genocide, more bemoaning that things seem to be going lower in recent days vis a vis recoloring actions of the Soviet Union in decades past, using the current war as an excuse to remove memorials to/for the USSR, etc

I'll say this about neoliberals: I find them much easier to talk to than many other reddit libs. While the conclusions they eventaully arrive at I of course disagree with, they aren't the same as other libs that make emotional arguments based off mainstream political news which they consume like pop culture. I recall a r/neoliberal effortpost about the camps in Xinjiang which pretty also states that while there is very large discrimination in how they select people for re-education camps - there isn't much evidence for genocide or abuses outside of that