• DJMSilver [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I stopped after he was comparing Banderites to members of ISIS and how their politics have to be reactionary to defend themselves against invaders. It's just a repetition of what the State Departments wants you to think of these events.

    EDIT: I skipped around the video at 31:17 and he's going like "WE HAD TO INTEGRATE THE AZOV BATTALION, UKRAINE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE!!!!". Literally the same arguments used to justify Hitler. This is the brainrot that comes from 'realist' geopolitical analysis, no opinion from the masses.

    Also cites radio free europe as a source to dismiss anti-Semitism attacks. It seems like we've forgotten that a big part of the Nazi ideology was also anti-slavic so it's simply not to say that "they cannot be nazi's because jews are in the azov battalion" (ignoring how modern day Israel resembles much of Nazi policies in trying to make a settler colonial state against Palestine).

    • catposter [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      their politics have to be reactionary to defend themselves against invaders

      :side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:

      i have heard this exact argument made for why being gay had to be recriminalized in the USSR before

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        i have heard this exact argument made for why being gay had to be recriminalized in the USSR before

        and it's cringe and wrong when those people use it, too

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      3 years ago

      i mean he's not wrong about comparing banderites to ISIS, concidering how both were funded by the state department

      • DJMSilver [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I know, I just have a big issue with claiming that ISIS had mass support when in fact it was the masses themselves who were resisting them. Why is he giving ISIS, Al Quada and the Taliban all the credit for the large amounts of people who resisted the US Invasion. The CIA wants to frame them as the leaders of the mass resistance.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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          3 years ago

          well from how it's sounding from a lot of the locals around Mariupol, the masses are generally resisting the banderites while they're being portrayed as the leaders of the mass resistance.

          • DJMSilver [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Thank God. I love seeing the bodies of dead Avov Soliders, i've noticed the Mariupol events have been unreported in the media.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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              3 years ago

              apparently theres some pictures going around of a Russian massacring a bunch of civilians while they were cooking breakfast. but all they show is the aftermath.

              Like I can acknowledge theres always a possibility of some trigger-happy psychos in their military going off, yet considering how often we've heard of ukrainian and azov forces razing everything as they retreat, bomb civilian centers deliberately, hide in refugee camps to draw in russian artillery fire, etc, I'd find it easier to believe some azov psychos had a hand in creating that photo