It's kind of weird seeing so many ppl on this site say things like "if it was my partner I would beat the shit out of someone" and similar stuff (see this thread: https://hexbear.net/post/183672). Not gonna lie it's kinda weird hearing that from nominal leftists. It sounds no different than some machismo person trying to start a fight cuz his honor was disrespected or something. This is what I said in that thread:

I mean I get the sentiment, but it also kinda feels like some kind of toxic machismo holdover. Kind of like “how dare you make fun of MY wife, if you insult her you basically insult ME!” I dunno it sounds kinda possessive, as if someone damaged your property, therefore damaged your pride.

So how do ppl justify this? I'm genuinely curious.

One thing I've seen some people say is that "he was standing up for someone." But that still sounds like some "you've disrespected m'lady sir, shall we duel?" shit. Like I see this stuff all the time from dads who get mad at their daughter's dates ("don't you dare lay a hand on her or I'll kill you") or brothers that are very possessive of girl family members ("if you mistreat my sister I'll kill you!") or even chuds getting triggered about the flag ("if you disrespect the flag I'll kill you!").

I dunno sounds very honor culture-y. Also sounds like retributive justice, which is fine I guess if you believe in that but we've seen the horrors that has wreaked on minority communities in places like the US. I dunno lemme know what you all think.

  • leftofthat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Is that some sort of line you don't cross? You'd bruise someone's soul but not their cheek?

    There's always an issue with escalating violence. But sometimes the escalation is part of the message.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      retributive escalation of violence is a bad behavior cycle to get into. I don't think he should be punished as there wasn't any actual injury caused or any danger of that happening but he was very much wrong for escalating things to violence.

      • leftofthat [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        retributive escalation of violence is a bad behavior cycle to get into

        Yes totally agree

        • swampfox [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Abusing your spouse in any form is domestic abuse and categorically wrong. I'm clearly talking about people slapping people they don't hold any special power over be it economic, emotional, etc.

          You are grasping at straws and making me spell out things as if it is your first day on Earth.

          • queenjamie [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            I’m clearly talking about people slapping people they don’t hold any special power over be it economic, emotional, etc.

            Yeah you've made that clear now, but your original comment:

            it’s a slap - the universal signal to “fucking stop you moron”. The harm done by a slap is 1% physical (if you’re a tiny baby) and 99% public humiliation.

            was not very clear. But I see what you're saying. Still don't necessarily fully agree but I see where you're coming from