It's kind of weird seeing so many ppl on this site say things like "if it was my partner I would beat the shit out of someone" and similar stuff (see this thread: https://hexbear.net/post/183672). Not gonna lie it's kinda weird hearing that from nominal leftists. It sounds no different than some machismo person trying to start a fight cuz his honor was disrespected or something. This is what I said in that thread:

I mean I get the sentiment, but it also kinda feels like some kind of toxic machismo holdover. Kind of like “how dare you make fun of MY wife, if you insult her you basically insult ME!” I dunno it sounds kinda possessive, as if someone damaged your property, therefore damaged your pride.

So how do ppl justify this? I'm genuinely curious.

One thing I've seen some people say is that "he was standing up for someone." But that still sounds like some "you've disrespected m'lady sir, shall we duel?" shit. Like I see this stuff all the time from dads who get mad at their daughter's dates ("don't you dare lay a hand on her or I'll kill you") or brothers that are very possessive of girl family members ("if you mistreat my sister I'll kill you!") or even chuds getting triggered about the flag ("if you disrespect the flag I'll kill you!").

I dunno sounds very honor culture-y. Also sounds like retributive justice, which is fine I guess if you believe in that but we've seen the horrors that has wreaked on minority communities in places like the US. I dunno lemme know what you all think.

  • queenjamie [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Duel. Kill. Kill. Kill. Every comparison you made involved murder, but we’re just talking about someone getting slapped. Don’t you think that’s a bit of a false equivalence?

    There's no doubt in my mind that if Will Smith punched Chris Rock really hard ppl here would also support it. It's the reasoning behind it that seems similar to me. In the examples I gave above would they actually kill the person? No, they're expressing that they would be really angry and possible beat, punch, smack, or even slap the person.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      There’s no doubt in my mind that if Will Smith punched Chris Rock really hard ppl here would also support it.

      Weird assumption. Why do you think this? I would expect that if Will Smith, say, broke Chris Rock's nose, people would feel pretty differently about it.

      In the examples I gave above would they actually kill the person? No

      Again, weird assumption. Pretty sure at least some of those threats are sincere.

      • queenjamie [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Weird assumption. Why do you think this? I would expect that if Will Smith, say, broke Chris Rock’s nose, people would feel pretty differently about it.

        Eh not too sure about that. Lots of toxic masculinity (still lingering in leftists too IMO), so they might see it as "righteous"

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Again, this is purely speculation. If you wanna make up a scenario where people defend a more severe assault just so you can get mad at those people, that's on you.

          • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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            3 years ago

            If you wanna make up a scenario where people defend a more severe assault just so you can get mad at those people, that’s on you.

            that's basically all they're doing in this thread lol it's good slop.

            :party-parrot-popcorn:

              • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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                3 years ago

                It's funny watching all of the sleeper accounts pop up like meerkats whenever they think they might be able to make a sitewide struggle session happen lolol

                • Tervell [he/him]
                  ·
                  3 years ago

                  putting on my sunglasses and saying in a hacker voice "I've been activated", except it's to start a struggle session :fedposting:

                  • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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                    3 years ago

                    :stupidpol: account A posts bigoted bullshit of side 1

                    :stupidpol: account B posts bigoted bullshit of side 2

                    :stupidpol: account C posts "omg hexbar do better im leaving 4evr"

                    ...

                    :stupidpol: "this will show them"

      • Slaanesh [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I would expect that if Will Smith, say, broke Chris Rock’s nose, people would feel pretty differently about it.

        Nah still alright.