But I'm sure you know that there's so much land that's not suitable to grow cucumbers on, which means my uncle needs to have his goat farm there, and if he's going to make goat cheese he might as well slaughter the goats when they get too old to produce milk, and anyway that's why veganism is impossible and we need to grow massive fields of corn and soy to feed to thousands of giant warehouses full of pigs and cows. Basic ecology.