So if you did indeed answer “yes” to every question in the scenario, the only conclusion is that you should be offering every resource at your disposal to help children dying around the world,
Yes, that would be very moral. People who donate lots of money their money and take vows of poverty are recognized by soceity as having done a good thing. the fact that you don't donate every resource you have except for those which sustain your life and allow you to keep gathering more resources means you are not the most moral, perfect, unreproachable being on the planet, which must come as a shock to you, and people that donate more than you are more good than you.
it's not that i'm worse than someone else, but that from an opportunity cost perspective, the failure to help a child in need is the same as killing them. so i'm basically killing dozens/thousands/however much the 20$ i could have made mowing lawns when i'm drawing makes
arguably the same could be said about energy bills and time so if you spend 30 minutes on this site in your free time instead of organizing or sigma grindsetting for extra money you're killing twice as many people
That's the point. None of us are perfectly or even maximally moral. The idea is to be more moral when you can. By trying to make this an all-or-nothing question, you are setting yourself up to give up on morality as a whole, and become entirely self interested.
I won't debate this with you on philosophical grounds, but I will say that my advice on the most moral thing you could do right now is to stop fixating on this topic. Take a gentle, gradual approach, and ask yourself what small and simple things you could do to improve the lives of the people you care about. Somewhere down the road, you can start to broaden your scope.
i dont think my brain works that way. whenever i try to "take a break" from a concept like this i always just disconnect entirely and then find it again and the same thing happens. my brain just doesn't think of things in a way that isn't "optimal", it actually hurts to do "suboptimal" things. even the knowledge that eventually ill have to give up everything that gives me pleasure, but gradually, causes me anxiety, too. my thinking is too long term. i think it's just easier to "rip off the bandaid" so to speak but i guess whatever
Oh, I'm completely giving you advice that I would be terrible at accepting. It's only because I've gone through that sort of cycle so many times that I've been able to be aware of the problem, and sort-of-a-little-bit get better at dealing with it.
In my experience, there's some problems you can solve that way, and when it works, it can work really well. But there are some problems where it's just not right for the job. If you get caught in a cycle like that I try and remember that it's probably more useful to use the time to learn how to be adaptable in your approach and your thinking than it is to actually solve the problem.
yeah i think part of it is just "trust the process" combined with "you're not gonna be perfect" in retrospect, it's probably about as good of an idea to obsess over the definition of relaxation and stuff as it is to obsess over every line i make when drawing
after actually walking away for a bit i've realized this is the only time my anxiety has actually been encouraging me to be a better person so :thumb-cop: yay
kinda hope this stays around because its reminding me of my org meetings and stuff i normally have a hard time remembering (in the short time it's been a thing)
i cannot express how much of an improvement "utilitarianistic thirdworldism" is as a thing to worry about adhering to over the multitudes of random things my GAD brain comes up with
I totally get trying to manage "if I'm going to be stuck focusing somewhere, here's a better place than most". It just looked like it was starting to get away from you at some points in this thread.
Also, I wanted to say that if you have to let yourself "disconnect entirely" from something and come back to it, you're not completely starting over, some of it does stick around, even if it doesn't feel like it. That's especially true when you've found a healthier outlet.
Yes, that would be very moral. People who donate lots of money their money and take vows of poverty are recognized by soceity as having done a good thing. the fact that you don't donate every resource you have except for those which sustain your life and allow you to keep gathering more resources means you are not the most moral, perfect, unreproachable being on the planet, which must come as a shock to you, and people that donate more than you are more good than you.
i mean i already knew that
it's not that i'm worse than someone else, but that from an opportunity cost perspective, the failure to help a child in need is the same as killing them. so i'm basically killing dozens/thousands/however much the 20$ i could have made mowing lawns when i'm drawing makes
arguably the same could be said about energy bills and time so if you spend 30 minutes on this site in your free time instead of organizing or sigma grindsetting for extra money you're killing twice as many people
do YOU spend everything except your bare minimum resources in selfless endeavours?
That's the point. None of us are perfectly or even maximally moral. The idea is to be more moral when you can. By trying to make this an all-or-nothing question, you are setting yourself up to give up on morality as a whole, and become entirely self interested.
I won't debate this with you on philosophical grounds, but I will say that my advice on the most moral thing you could do right now is to stop fixating on this topic. Take a gentle, gradual approach, and ask yourself what small and simple things you could do to improve the lives of the people you care about. Somewhere down the road, you can start to broaden your scope.
ok
i dont think my brain works that way. whenever i try to "take a break" from a concept like this i always just disconnect entirely and then find it again and the same thing happens. my brain just doesn't think of things in a way that isn't "optimal", it actually hurts to do "suboptimal" things. even the knowledge that eventually ill have to give up everything that gives me pleasure, but gradually, causes me anxiety, too. my thinking is too long term. i think it's just easier to "rip off the bandaid" so to speak but i guess whatever
Oh, I'm completely giving you advice that I would be terrible at accepting. It's only because I've gone through that sort of cycle so many times that I've been able to be aware of the problem, and sort-of-a-little-bit get better at dealing with it.
In my experience, there's some problems you can solve that way, and when it works, it can work really well. But there are some problems where it's just not right for the job. If you get caught in a cycle like that I try and remember that it's probably more useful to use the time to learn how to be adaptable in your approach and your thinking than it is to actually solve the problem.
yeah i think part of it is just "trust the process" combined with "you're not gonna be perfect" in retrospect, it's probably about as good of an idea to obsess over the definition of relaxation and stuff as it is to obsess over every line i make when drawing
after actually walking away for a bit i've realized this is the only time my anxiety has actually been encouraging me to be a better person so :thumb-cop: yay
kinda hope this stays around because its reminding me of my org meetings and stuff i normally have a hard time remembering (in the short time it's been a thing)
i cannot express how much of an improvement "utilitarianistic thirdworldism" is as a thing to worry about adhering to over the multitudes of random things my GAD brain comes up with
I totally get trying to manage "if I'm going to be stuck focusing somewhere, here's a better place than most". It just looked like it was starting to get away from you at some points in this thread.
Also, I wanted to say that if you have to let yourself "disconnect entirely" from something and come back to it, you're not completely starting over, some of it does stick around, even if it doesn't feel like it. That's especially true when you've found a healthier outlet.