"nooo the nuclear family is normal! If you feel empty and alienated in the suburbs, that's what it feels like to have freedom!" ok groomer

  • AssaultRifle15 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Being gay doesn't make you sterile. Children exist outside of nuclear families.

    • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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      3 years ago

      No, but getting rid of straight families would probably end the species since there is no longer any inherent incentive to reproduce.

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        3 years ago

        No one is saying to get rid of straight families? That's not what we mean when we criticize the nuclear family, or did someone saying "it takes a village" upthread not make that clear?

        And many gay people have and want children too. It's real funny the way that you think we have to have this specific family structure, and only this structure, or people won't have any "inherent incentive to reproduce", as if humanity would have even lasted this long if that was true. The nuclear family is a really recent thing

        • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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          3 years ago

          All I’m saying is that someone being homophobic isn’t an excuse to start being heterophobic.

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            3 years ago

            Who is being heterophobic? No one even brought up straight people before you did.

              • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                3 years ago

                "Straight culture" as in enforced, compulsory straightness lmao

                      • catgirlcommunist [any]
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                        3 years ago

                        The point of the title is that sexuality has always been forced on children, but because heterosexuality is the default in American culture it's been heterosexuality forced on children. Now the chuds are all up in arms because of pro-LGBT teachers, acting like kids are being forced to be gay, when kids have always been forced into heterosexuality.

                      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                        3 years ago

                        What even led you to this website, 1 month old account that only started posting a day ago about stupid wrecker shit?

                        • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                          3 years ago

                          When Reddit quarantined Russia I wanted to go somewhere that wasn’t flooded with propaganda. I love this site but you guys have a few blind spots yourselves.

                          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                            3 years ago

                            Lol you're still conflating "the nuclear family" with "straight people" and you say WE have blind spots?

                            Wait why am I even engaging with you seriously? Fuck off wrecker

                            • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                              3 years ago

                              I’ve been quite civil. You just keep getting your panties twisted because someone sees the world differently.

                              That’s fine if you don’t want a nuclear family. But it’s rude to criticize people who might.

                              Just like it would be rude of me to criticize a homosexual family structure.

            • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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              3 years ago

              Lol It’s literally the exact same behavior as homophobia.

              Just because one is more popular doesn’t mean it counterpart doesn’t exist.

                • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                  3 years ago

                  And heterphobia isn’t?!

                  You’re delusional if you think the LGBT community isn’t backed up by power.

                        • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                          3 years ago

                          How about an example of gay people criticizing straight people for choosing their family structure? Oh wait that’s this thread.

                          I get that it was in response to a hateful person. But acting like a hateful person is the exact opposite way to say their behavior is wrong.

                            • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                              3 years ago

                              Being critical of ideas isn’t hateful. Unless those ideas are tied to orientation.

                              For example, the idea that LGBT people are groomers isn’t being critical. It is hateful.

                                • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                                  3 years ago

                                  This is a fair argument but I think the line between criticizing behavior only one orientation partakes in and bigotry is incredibly fine and also leads to abuse.

                                  I’m not mad. I’m just pointing out the above fact. I’m only continuing to comment because my inbox exploded with aggression.

                          • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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                            3 years ago

                            Individual people saying shit you don’t like is not the same as actual system violence that is homophobia

                            Straight people have never lost jobs, been attack or killed, or otherwise ostracized by the whole of spciety and told their lifestyle is wrong. There is no possible way to make your claim on this make sense in the real world it is completely delusional

                            The only thing you can do is hold up a straight person getting some shit for being a bigoted asshole as “oppression” which it isn’t

                            • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                              3 years ago

                              I never said I didn’t like it. I just think that partaking in the same behavior you criticize is cringe. I’m always going to point out hypocrisy.

                              • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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                                3 years ago

                                Extremely embarrassing you can’t recognize how incongruent these two things are lmfao I hope you’re like 15

                        • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                          3 years ago

                          Deductions.

                          Realists see a fact and then follow it to it’s logical conclusion to find the most likely outcome.

                          Fighting bigotry with bigotry is destructive. And whether you recognize it as bigotry or not, other people do. So kindly follow the golden rule and don’t behave like bigots. Even sarcastically.

                          • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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                            3 years ago

                            Realists see a fact and then follow it to it’s logical conclusion to find the most likely outcome.

                            Lord give me the unearned confidence of a straight white guy who thinks his gut feelings about things is science

                            • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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                              3 years ago

                              Didn’t realize philosophy was science but okay.

                              Didn’t take long for you to show your true colors.

                          • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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                            3 years ago

                            Realists see a fact and then follow it to it’s logical conclusion to find the most likely outcome.

                            :very-intelligent:

          • riley
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            1 year ago

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            • Ninjapirateking [it/its]
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              3 years ago

              And suddenly all your responses make sense. You’re mentally challenged.