• BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I know this is going to be a long explanation but bear with me, MIchael Hudson's analysis is a good starting point to the US geopolitical goals but he is not a Marxist and therefore isn't considering some of the deeper causes of all of this.

    Tl;DR the 80-90s neoliberal reforms were a large scale attempt at restoring the profitability lost at the end of the golden era(50s-70s). Marx explains that technological advances will necessarily cause the rate of profit to fall and this leads to counter tendencies(i.e neoliberalism and austerity).

    However those counter measures can only go so far, neoliberalism can't save capitalism because capitalism inherently demands infinite growth and that means infinite technological innovation which necessarily leads to less profit.

    However there is an exploitation floor so to speak, only human labor creates value so automation is only accelerating the problem. Further exploitation like slavery presents obvious contradictions like who is going to buy shit without money(go back to the end of slavery and industrial revolution for an insight).

    Another important point is that the golden age started at the end of WW2 when the US emerged as the sole capitalist superpower. The destruction of the capitalist productive forces in Europe along with the huge state driven investment in the US is what made the difference. Going back to Hudson obviously the US wants the EU to suffer in order to turn the clock back to 1950 again.

    So to finaly answer your question, there is no real "end goal", the US-EU relations is more of a desperate times desperate measures thing imo.

    The only way for capitalism to survive the next 50 years is going to be through a major crisis that bankrupts a large part of the unprofitable corporations(see zombie companies) while simultaneously forcing the first world population to accept a third world lifestyle. The obvious problem with this is that a lot of rich people are going to be temporarily inconvenienced.

    You can see how the media is telling people to prepare for food shortages etc. However to be clear none of this is necessarily premeditated, the psychopaths can't help but steer the system towards that direction.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Addressing this point, Michael Hudson is a Marxist economist, what are you talking about. He has expanded much further, of course, and is a pioneering member of the MMT circle (which is composed of a bunch of heterodox economists of Marx, Lerner and Minsky traditions). His books have no shortage of analyses using Marx and Lenin (though he does warn that the Leninist view on imperialism is no longer adequate because of how finance capitalism has changed since WWI).

        I am not an expert so this is just what I picked up from casual reading:

        -It is not worth discussing MMT, it is entirely a anti-Marxist theory in every conceivable way. You can't seriously advocate for it and still call yourself a Marxist. At the very least support for MMT should come with severe disclaimers about the inherent problems. Indeed for many the inherent problems make MMT a non-starter. I am not sure why you think his MMT work supports his position as a Marxist, associating with other Marxists/heterodox economists is fine, but also not the point?

        -He considers himself a "classical" economist like Marx. This is very much different from how every other marxist describes themselves, why not call himself a Marxist straight up?

        -People can call themselves whatever they want. Varofoukis called himself an "erratic Marxist" at one point lol.

        -His about page on this website makes no mention of Marx.

        -Of all the articles I've read from him recently he makes zero mentions of the Marxist understanding of crises(the failing rate of profit) and how that relates with current events. In fact if you weren't already aware you'd never know Marx has anything to say about late stage capitalism from his recent articles. My critique is that his geopolitical points are not the holy grail but just a good part of the puzzle.

        -I don't particularly regard Harvey all that highly, he has been in quite controversial grounds with his Marxism in recent times.

        He has some incredibly shitty takes on China and imperialism as a whole.You can find a lot about his takes here is a good example. MONTHLY REVIEW: The Ideology of Late Imperialism .

        Harvey seems hell bent on being controversial, example here. and here. You can read the comments on both and reach your own conclusion.

        I'd even consider Richard Wolff as someone far more useful and correct despite his own absurd takes recently.

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        (though he does warn that the Leninist view on imperialism is no longer adequate because of how finance capitalism has changed since WWI).

        Do you have a citation on this? I'm actually curious now.

    • lil_pee_pee [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Fantastic post, good explanation

      The destruction of the capitalist productive forces in Europe along with the huge state driven investment in the US is what made the difference. Going back to Hudson obviously the US wants the EU to suffer in order to turn the clock back to 1950 again.

      The only way for capitalism to survive the next 50 years is going to be through a major crisis that bankrupts a large part of the unprofitable corporations(see zombie companies) while simultaneously forcing the first world population to accept a third world lifestyle. The obvious problem with this is that a lot of rich people are going to be temporarily inconvenienced.

      I'm really curious is this will happen. Obviously you're right, the deadwood needs to be cleared, but you have to wonder how many companies will stay just because they serve our imperial ends or even just out of corruption. Like by all accounts, cruise lines should have died forever in 2020, but they were bailed out with covidbux. Netflix/Tesla have inflated and unrealistic evaluations, and BIS estimates that roughly 20 percent of corps in the US are zombie firms. The US, as it currently exists, seems to stick around just to prop these businesses up and suppress the working class globally. If you can't go to Dave and Busters and buy snuggies, why would you be a fucking American?

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Obviously you’re right, the deadwood needs to be cleared, but you have to wonder how many companies will stay just because they serve our imperial ends or even just out of corruption.

        Yeah I think the important detail is that the zombies tend to be smaller companies so if the choice is between thousands of small business or Amazon continuing to grow indefinitely they'll just buy Amazon stock and ride the rocket.