feels to me like there should be kind of outreach and way to connect these communities, i know here is more 'left unity' and shitposty than gzd but still the overlap between the 2 seems too large for it to be worth having 2 separate tiny communities instead of combining them into one bigger one.

i see a ton of stuff that's literally just reposted on both anyway, and neither here or lemmygrad is anywhere close to the size that r/gzd or /r/cth was on reddit. feels like they should be interconnected somehow or one should absorb the other. the online non-corporate social media 'leftist' community is far too small to be split up this much.

i personally vote for hexbear because i like the bear.

  • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Your arrogance and dismissive attitude surely isn’t alienating though? Insulting random commentators immediately.

    Look, I’m just the messenger here. I have plugged this site on GZD and ALWAYS get responses complaining about the mods. Take that as you will but it’s a fact that is your reputation among the online left if they have ever heard of this site at all

    • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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      3 years ago

      What is it that they are upset about being removed or banned?

      You still have yet to cite anything other than a "reputation"

      You're a materialist right? What is that reputation grounded in?

      I'm genuinely curious, as a mod I need a total picture of whatever grievances someone has here.

      Also you initially cited a desire to be rude, to which I said "grow up" that's not an attack that's advice on being taken seriously.

      Secondly you are the one actually hurling insults and calling me arrogant while proclaiming to speak for a massive community that I am certain did not choose you as their spokesperson.

      Talk about fucking arrogance.

      • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        How could I know what specific instances commenters on other sites are referring to?

        GZD also had heavy moderation and banned liberals and wreckers, yet their mods do not have your reputation. Seems they are more tolerant of dissent or more accurate in their targets.

        Materialism is when you argue online and have specific examples instead of general sentiment. What is this point even?

        Do you see how you are getting increasingly angry at me for voicing criticism? Just ban me already and prove my point.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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          3 years ago

          So you're just going off of hearsay?

          lol I'm not mad I'm trying to figure out what is at the heart of your argument.

          So far it's just been "other people said so"

          • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Literally dozens of examples of “people said so” starts to add up when those people saying so are the ones you are attempting to recruit.

            I don’t have a verified Reddit account to access GZD anymore but if you do, search “chapo.chat” or “hexbear” and you will see what I mean

            • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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              3 years ago

              What did they say? What are the examples?

              Surely if it's that prevalent you remember some?

              I'm sure I will find plenty of comments saying what you are saying now with no source to back them up.

              I did a search and literally found nothing. Maybe that's because of the quarantine but you're gonna have to do more than "some people said so" to make a coherent argument.

              Let me reiterate how ironic and funny this is, you're someone who ostensibly takes great skepticism and a critical eye toward news about a designated enemy that you have no primary sources for, (e.g. I don't trust jack shit I hear about DPRK from the west), but now you are confidently making assertions about abuse of power from some commie mods on a site you won't even post sources from.

              You don't even need a reddit account if this problem is so prevalent, if moderation is the problem then certainly you should be able to find something in the modlog that proves your point?

              It's not like everything we do isn't transparent.

              Take a cue from your sub's namesake and do some self-crit

              • KeepStalin [comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Don't have a dog in this fight, but there are complaints about the moderation (even if you disagree with the reasons given). Use Camas: https://camas.github.io/reddit-search/#{%22subreddit%22:%22genzedong%22,%22resultSize%22:100,%22query%22:%22hexbear%22}

              • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Could it be me who is wrong? No it’s all of GZD are just wreckers and reactionaries!

                • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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                  3 years ago

                  What is their problem? I'm honestly trying to find out. You keep giving troll responses

                  I didn't say gzd was wreckers and reactionaries I said the majority of things removed by mods are.

                  Put up or shut up.

                  You keep dodging this question and making essentially a straw man argument without even constructing the strawman.

            • effervescent [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Oh, the people who demanded complete control over the old Discord and when that didn’t happen started doxxing people, building Hexbear spambots, and posting inflammatory bullshit on Reddit. Super reliable lol

              • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Most leftist communities don’t have this aura about them. I’m not involved in that drama, but it is true this site has a disproportionate amount of drama compared to say, GZD moderation