cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3679424

“Criticizing Israel is criticizing Jewish right to exist”

  • AsLeftAsTheyCome [they/them, any]
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    9 months ago

    We are that genetically distinct

    No you are not. No humans are. Scientifically, there is no such thing as race.

    Jews in particular, are a fairly diverse group of people. In my (admittedly weak) understanding, most of these DNA tests just assume that people who have a semitic haplo group, in combination with certain genes most common in eastern or southern europe, must have a Jewish family background. This methodology is obviously extremely eurocentric, which is probably why these freaks love it.

    It’s also worth pointing out that those same semitic haplo groups are also extremely common among Palestinians, because Palestinians are indigenous to the region. I guess those “distinct” genetics only grant you the right to a nation-state if you have some european mutations attached.

    I know I’m preaching to the choir but this is just blood and soil ethnonationalism with an extremely thin veneer of progressivism. Even if an ethnic group was somehow consistently and measurably distinct from the rest of humanity, it wouldn’t somehow justify the displacement and destruction of any other group of people. Genetics are obviously completely irrelevant to the shit that isreal is doing and the fact that this person thinks it serves as some kind of justification only exposes their blatant fascism. This whole line of argument is just so disgusting and despicably racist.

      • AsLeftAsTheyCome [they/them, any]
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        9 months ago

        I mean sure, there’s obviously some degree of distinction. But there’s enough variety and overlap between groups that it’s hard to claim there’s genetic evidence for race. The way that corporations like 23 and Me choose to measure race is also fairly controversial, at least in my understanding.

        Kinda self doxxing, but in my own experience, a few close relatives of mine got tested and came back with a high ratio of Shepardi genetic markers. One is definitely Jewish, so no surprises there. However, the other is almost entirely Anglo-Irish, with some Muslim background from Spain. The genes the test marked as Shepardi most likely came from that group of Muslims. These genetic tests generally tend to assume that Semite + euro = Jew when that is not always the case. This assumption tends to erase some european Muslims as well as many Arabic and African Jews.

        Genetics and “race” also aren’t equivalent to ethnicity, especially in a multiracial ethnoreligious group. My father is of Jewish descent but my mother is not and I wasn’t really raised as a Jew. If I wanted to be considered Jewish, I’d need to put in the effort of joining a community and possibly converting, depending on how conservative the sect is. A genetic test absolutely would not cut it.