Fuckin' hell I continually forget then remember that this shit actually happened and that a huge swath of gamers got grifted by a bunch of reactionaries into having a temper tantrum over critical art analysis
Yeah, this is what killed the "video game is art" movement. "Video game is dumb entertainment above critique" is the official position Gamers have adopted today.
As someone who didn't get into videogames until later in life (mid 20s, so not that late, but late compared to Gamers), what I think is really interesting is that there are a shitload of games that definitely qualify as art, but they're not the games capital g Gamers play. One of my most consistent "takes" about video games is this: just play better games! Don't like loot boxes and day 1 dlc? Play better games. Don't like micro transactions? Play better games. You think games nowadays are all boring open worlds with no interesting story or side missions? Stop playing the newest Assassin's Creed or Farcry or whatever the fuck and play something like Pathologic 2 or Outer Wilds instead.
There are so many amazing games out now that I literally don't understand why people waste their time with the newest AAA slop that everyone knows going in is going to be over-hyped garbage.
Out of the bucket load of cheap knock off doom and quake clones there's like half a dozen actual good ones. Amid Evil is freaking beautiful, Dusk and it's weird farmer diesel punk horror is nice, and lastly you got Ion Maiden as a classic duke game for the top three dominant; also Wrath Aeon is shaping up to maybe be good if they get it out within the next decade. Currently I'm waiting on Citizen Sleeper which already advertises itself as a game set during the fall of galactic capitalism (with the corpos mentioned in the trailer as pretty fucking bad having employees augmented with planned obsolescence cyborg parts) so there's hope it's got some Disco Elysium style commentary.
Being a dumb asshole idiot who spent far too much time debating these weirdos back in the day, I think there position is more "games are art, but it's OUR ART! Those artsy fartsy hipsters need to stay way from it with their pretentious nonsense."
Fuckin' hell I continually forget then remember that this shit actually happened and that a huge swath of gamers got grifted by a bunch of reactionaries into having a temper tantrum over critical art analysis
Yeah, this is what killed the "video game is art" movement. "Video game is dumb entertainment above critique" is the official position Gamers have adopted today.
As someone who didn't get into videogames until later in life (mid 20s, so not that late, but late compared to Gamers), what I think is really interesting is that there are a shitload of games that definitely qualify as art, but they're not the games capital g Gamers play. One of my most consistent "takes" about video games is this: just play better games! Don't like loot boxes and day 1 dlc? Play better games. Don't like micro transactions? Play better games. You think games nowadays are all boring open worlds with no interesting story or side missions? Stop playing the newest Assassin's Creed or Farcry or whatever the fuck and play something like Pathologic 2 or Outer Wilds instead.
There are so many amazing games out now that I literally don't understand why people waste their time with the newest AAA slop that everyone knows going in is going to be over-hyped garbage.
Exactly, and god forbid you bring up you enjoy indie games that aren't just shitty knock off boomer shooters cuss those aren't "video games".
God boomer shooter fans are so fucking obnoxious, they're basically the "not like other kids" of indie gaming.
My brother in christ, what do you think the 30 years late Doom clones you play are?
Out of the bucket load of cheap knock off doom and quake clones there's like half a dozen actual good ones. Amid Evil is freaking beautiful, Dusk and it's weird farmer diesel punk horror is nice, and lastly you got Ion Maiden as a classic duke game for the top three dominant; also Wrath Aeon is shaping up to maybe be good if they get it out within the next decade. Currently I'm waiting on Citizen Sleeper which already advertises itself as a game set during the fall of galactic capitalism (with the corpos mentioned in the trailer as pretty fucking bad having employees augmented with planned obsolescence cyborg parts) so there's hope it's got some Disco Elysium style commentary.
boomer shooter people are weird
just find a good doom mod or whatever instead of a modern game trying to be it
Being a dumb asshole idiot who spent far too much time debating these weirdos back in the day, I think there position is more "games are art, but it's OUR ART! Those artsy fartsy hipsters need to stay way from it with their pretentious nonsense."