April 13, 2022 By Stephen Gowans Some radical socialists practice a politics that carries over from the days when to be a revolutionary meant supporting the Soviet Union or China. With the Soviet U…
And while it may be difficult to acknowledge that China’s growing prosperity has less to do with socialism and far more to do with capitalism, especially the country’s emulation of the mercantilist policies that built the capitalist West, this is the reality. There is no socialist China. There is a capitalist China, which, in its industrial planning and state owned enterprises coexisting with privately-owned enterprises, merely recreates what other successful capitalist countries did to lift their millions out of poverty. If we’re going to talk of a socialist China we might as well talk of a socialist Germany and a socialist Japan and a socialist South Korea, for all of these countries, and more, relied heavily on industrial planning and state owned enterprises to lift their millions out of poverty, as capitalist China is doing today.
I've stopped reading. Guy has zero understanding of imperialism. How was West Germany rebuilt after WW2, and South Korea after the Korean war? How have South Korea and Germany acted since then, simply being outposts for US imperialism, filled with US military bases. How many US military bases are in China again? This is completely different from the situation in China post Mao. The whole point of China's project is to take the means of producing certain things away from the west and into their own countries, and then use that to grow their own industries and start decoupling. Meanwhile South Korea and Germany were given huge funds by the US to rebuild and have no intentions of decoupling in any way from the USA.
LMAO. The only people I know that would both describe China as capitalist and simultaneously say that their successes are because of capitalism and not the "so-called" echoes of socialism still left are: libs, :funny-clown-hammer: libs, :libertarian-approaching:s or generic fucking chuds all of them huffing copium. What does anyone left of aoc have to gain from attributing this to capitalism especially if they believe China is capitalist? "Isn't do socialism moar" the point of such a critique? "Capitalism lifts people out of poverty" is not a take one would expect from a socialist.
This is literally the opposite of the author's point lmao
To help midwife the birth of the emerging multipolar world, the anachronistic radical socialist turns skepticism of US pretexts for imperialist assaults into a need to believe the very same pretexts Moscow recycles for its own imperialist assault on Ukraine. NATO’s humanitarian interventions in the former Yugoslavia and Libya to prevent claimed genocides are scoffed at, for good reason.
He said it was correct for the anachronistic radial socialist to doubt that NATO had humanitarian interventions in Yugoslavia and Libya
I've stopped reading. Guy has zero understanding of imperialism. How was West Germany rebuilt after WW2, and South Korea after the Korean war? How have South Korea and Germany acted since then, simply being outposts for US imperialism, filled with US military bases. How many US military bases are in China again? This is completely different from the situation in China post Mao. The whole point of China's project is to take the means of producing certain things away from the west and into their own countries, and then use that to grow their own industries and start decoupling. Meanwhile South Korea and Germany were given huge funds by the US to rebuild and have no intentions of decoupling in any way from the USA.
Horrible article
LMAO. The only people I know that would both describe China as capitalist and simultaneously say that their successes are because of capitalism and not the "so-called" echoes of socialism still left are: libs, :funny-clown-hammer: libs, :libertarian-approaching:s or generic fucking chuds all of them huffing copium. What does anyone left of aoc have to gain from attributing this to capitalism especially if they believe China is capitalist? "Isn't do socialism moar" the point of such a critique? "Capitalism lifts people out of poverty" is not a take one would expect from a socialist.
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This is literally the opposite of the author's point lmao
He said it was correct for the anachronistic radial socialist to doubt that NATO had humanitarian interventions in Yugoslavia and Libya
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First worldist brain.