You're welcome, comrade. It was a good discussion to be had and I think we are both refining our thoughts here so that we can better articulate them later.
I agree that religion has a lot to offer on the topic - I know a lot of people have distaste for it here and elsewhere but I think religion can be reclaimed from capitalism's corrosive influence; not only would they provide a basis for praxis in terms of sustained discipline but such a movement could re-align communists with the masses who are still largely devout.
Love the comment on making the everyday leisure political, too. Many obstacles to deal with on the way to that but it needs to be done so that the common person can exercise their politics as often as they want and in a manner that adds up.
This is completely irrelevant, but i think it's worth mentioning that apparently there's a branch of Buddhism, that re-contextualizes it's practices as elements and weapons in the class struggle, and claims that monkhood and the seeking of Enlightenment branch from misconceptions of Buddha's teachings, claiming that he was actually a proto-Marxist, not a typical philosopher or preacher.
Now obviously this is a very extreme, if not simply outright insulting branch of thought to normal Buddhists, and it was probably made by a Nazi or some shit, or I'm misremembering what I heard about it, but it is at least an example of how people with no faith (like, most likely, me) in any kind of religion or even spirituality can still benefit from it and ultimately even influence it.
I don't think it's really worth starting a whole discussion about it, but it is heartwarming to know (at least with Liberation Theology) that weirdo commies that can't shut up about Lenin exist in every social circle, and we just have to connect with them.
You're welcome, comrade. It was a good discussion to be had and I think we are both refining our thoughts here so that we can better articulate them later.
I agree that religion has a lot to offer on the topic - I know a lot of people have distaste for it here and elsewhere but I think religion can be reclaimed from capitalism's corrosive influence; not only would they provide a basis for praxis in terms of sustained discipline but such a movement could re-align communists with the masses who are still largely devout.
Love the comment on making the everyday leisure political, too. Many obstacles to deal with on the way to that but it needs to be done so that the common person can exercise their politics as often as they want and in a manner that adds up.
This is completely irrelevant, but i think it's worth mentioning that apparently there's a branch of Buddhism, that re-contextualizes it's practices as elements and weapons in the class struggle, and claims that monkhood and the seeking of Enlightenment branch from misconceptions of Buddha's teachings, claiming that he was actually a proto-Marxist, not a typical philosopher or preacher.
Now obviously this is a very extreme, if not simply outright insulting branch of thought to normal Buddhists, and it was probably made by a Nazi or some shit, or I'm misremembering what I heard about it, but it is at least an example of how people with no faith (like, most likely, me) in any kind of religion or even spirituality can still benefit from it and ultimately even influence it.
I don't think it's really worth starting a whole discussion about it, but it is heartwarming to know (at least with Liberation Theology) that weirdo commies that can't shut up about Lenin exist in every social circle, and we just have to connect with them.