The Russian military claimed that “American scientists from the lab” conducted a series of human experiments between 2019 and 2021, using patients at a psychiatric ward in Kharkov as subjects.

The Russian military claimed it had eyewitness testimonies of the “inhuman experiments,” but declined to provide any evidence of that, citing the necessity to protect them.

Big if true. Grain of salt, etc.

I personally find it plausible given America's history of experimentation on vulnerable populations.

  • Mentally ret*rded children housed at the Willowbrook State School in Staten Island, New York, were intentionally given hepatitis in an attempt to track the development of the viral infection. The study began in 1956 and lasted for 14 years. [Source]

  • The US Army sprayed my family with toxic dust as part of a top secret experiment to test radiological weapons on the public. My uncle died of an extremely rare form of cancer at 39, my mom had non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, my aunt gave birth to a baby with organs outside her body. [1] [2]

The labs in Ukraine are documented to have had Category B bioterrorism pathogens..

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Pressing X

      It is funny to see someone throwing US talking points back at them, though.

      Also, not saying it's not very likely, just that "We're withholding the evidence for reasons" means it's just rumormongering. Capitalists and exploiting poor economies to do ruthless and unethical shit is as old as capitalism.

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        rumormongering

        How many times has the Russian Federation spread rumors or made claims that turned out to be false? This isn't a rhetorical question. I'm sure it has happened. I think these types of exercises are constructive for gaining a historical perspective and separating truth from propaganda and cynicism. The only one I can name off the top of my head is "CIA did Chernobyl".

        This is an open question, not one directed at you personally, comrade.

        • END [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          The US has been doing experiments on soldiers, POWs, black populations, the poor, the mentally unstable/addicts, homeless, etc. for at least a century now across multiple levels of government and programs. Also just spraying diseases into the air over cities in California, Alberta, etc. via planes for biowarfare tests. Were also then super-curious on the "data" collected by Nazis and Unit 731 from their torture-experiments that they let them into the country en masse or pardon them. I don't get why users here are so skeptical of the US doing this. They get to farm it out to some poor Eastern European country, that still developed enough to have these labs, that doesn't speak the same language as us and is a couple of degrees removed from the US government and they get to continue torturing people like they've done before. The US completely stopping this behaviour for no reason would be the weird thing.

        • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          How many times has the Russian Federation spread rumors or made claims that turned out to be false?

          It's been ten hours and I still haven't gotten an answer from anyone. This seems to happen anytime I choose to challenge a particular negative perception of America's enemies. Ya'll ain't immune to propaganda.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          "Eyewitness accounts" is like 100% of every CIA farce. It doesn't carry any weight by itself.

            • blobjim [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              We'll wait and see in this case. I just don't want to give credence to the idea that someone's testimony is all that needs to be relied on.

              • blobjim [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Although I was reading some of this someone posted, and it gets pretty sus. Look for the part about mosquitos in Georgia (the country, but also the other Georgia). So I can see how "human experiments" could be pretty credible.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah but when someone says something inflammatory, and doesn't provide any evidence... that's a rumor. And it stays a rumor until they present evidence. You can't just run on vibes.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Okay... So.

              That's all really cool.

              But they've made an inflammatory statement and, no matter what vibe you're getting from it, they have not provided evidence. You can choose to believe them on face value if you want. I won't stop you. Go right ahead.