The Russian military claimed that “American scientists from the lab” conducted a series of human experiments between 2019 and 2021, using patients at a psychiatric ward in Kharkov as subjects.
The Russian military claimed it had eyewitness testimonies of the “inhuman experiments,” but declined to provide any evidence of that, citing the necessity to protect them.
Big if true. Grain of salt, etc.
I personally find it plausible given America's history of experimentation on vulnerable populations.
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Mentally ret*rded children housed at the Willowbrook State School in Staten Island, New York, were intentionally given hepatitis in an attempt to track the development of the viral infection. The study began in 1956 and lasted for 14 years. [Source]
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The US Army sprayed my family with toxic dust as part of a top secret experiment to test radiological weapons on the public. My uncle died of an extremely rare form of cancer at 39, my mom had non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, my aunt gave birth to a baby with organs outside her body. [1] [2]
The labs in Ukraine are documented to have had Category B bioterrorism pathogens..
This seems perfectly consistent with US policy. It is less fucked than the shit we openly admit to. Frankly I am kinda surprised we aren't just doing it at black sites
I am kinda surprised we aren’t just doing it at black sites
We have so many goddamn labs.
Pressing X
It is funny to see someone throwing US talking points back at them, though.
Also, not saying it's not very likely, just that "We're withholding the evidence for reasons" means it's just rumormongering. Capitalists and exploiting poor economies to do ruthless and unethical shit is as old as capitalism.
rumormongering
How many times has the Russian Federation spread rumors or made claims that turned out to be false? This isn't a rhetorical question. I'm sure it has happened. I think these types of exercises are constructive for gaining a historical perspective and separating truth from propaganda and cynicism. The only one I can name off the top of my head is "CIA did Chernobyl".
This is an open question, not one directed at you personally, comrade.
The US has been doing experiments on soldiers, POWs, black populations, the poor, the mentally unstable/addicts, homeless, etc. for at least a century now across multiple levels of government and programs. Also just spraying diseases into the air over cities in California, Alberta, etc. via planes for biowarfare tests. Were also then super-curious on the "data" collected by Nazis and Unit 731 from their torture-experiments that they let them into the country en masse or pardon them. I don't get why users here are so skeptical of the US doing this. They get to farm it out to some poor Eastern European country, that still developed enough to have these labs, that doesn't speak the same language as us and is a couple of degrees removed from the US government and they get to continue torturing people like they've done before. The US completely stopping this behaviour for no reason would be the weird thing.
How many times has the Russian Federation spread rumors or made claims that turned out to be false?
It's been ten hours and I still haven't gotten an answer from anyone. This seems to happen anytime I choose to challenge a particular negative perception of America's enemies. Ya'll ain't immune to propaganda.
"Eyewitness accounts" is like 100% of every CIA farce. It doesn't carry any weight by itself.
We'll wait and see in this case. I just don't want to give credence to the idea that someone's testimony is all that needs to be relied on.
Although I was reading some of this someone posted, and it gets pretty sus. Look for the part about mosquitos in Georgia (the country, but also the other Georgia). So I can see how "human experiments" could be pretty credible.
Yeah but when someone says something inflammatory, and doesn't provide any evidence... that's a rumor. And it stays a rumor until they present evidence. You can't just run on vibes.
Okay... So.
That's all really cool.
But they've made an inflammatory statement and, no matter what vibe you're getting from it, they have not provided evidence. You can choose to believe them on face value if you want. I won't stop you. Go right ahead.
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It's like some people here are libs who think project paperclip was just about getting nazis into NASA
Our sources tell us American scientists attempted to keep 5 PoWs awake for 30 days sealed together in a room. Documentation suggests things got pretty damn spooky
RT makes up like 90 percent of their "news". Pushing antivaxx, antimask sentiments, and worse, also anti refugees stances.
RT really sucks ass and it's not a credible source at all
this is a bullshit response and you know it, cmon comrade
and if this was really a statement from the Russian government you should easily be able to find another source reporting on it that isn't RT
its fine to find a story through them, but bad form to use that as the source, that's what was meant, and again, you know it.
quit being so combative, it's :cringe:
can you guys quit with the vague bickering and tell me who's right
antivaxx, antimask sentiments, and worse, also anti refugees stances.
That sucks. I guess I missed those articles, but I don't really read them regularly. Can you show me a few? Did you read them yourself or is that what American media told you about RT?
RT has also hosted good American leftists like Redacted Tonight and the Empire Files.
The programs are separate and hired because they criticize the US. Search "woke" on the site.
Their criticisms of the US are valid and their transphobia isn't. It's okay to consume media as long as you're aware of its biases.
Did you read them yourself or is that what American media told you about RT?
Do you have that one really racist uncle? Because I do, and all he reads is RT and Telegram
In America practically no one watches RT so it doesn't have that same stigma. People only know it as "Russia bad".
Isn't Telegram just a clone of Twitter?
In Europe it's very closely associated with Pegida (Patriots against Muslims), neofascist parties like AfD or FPO, and Querdenken (Corona deniers).
Telegram is a messenger but it can kind of be used like Twitter.
Interesting. In America all of our chuds watch FOX and OANN. RT America is only watched by a tiny sliver of anti-imperialist leftists for their shows like Redacted Tonight and Empire Files (until those got cancelled by recent American sanctions anyway).
Yea the US market for chud news is pretty saturated so I think RT had to adapt to find a target audience. European media is radical leftist by US standards, so chuds are an easy audience.
RT makes up like 90 percent of their “news”.
If you limit your scope to articles about American imperialism (like this one), and ignore the culture war stuff, they're >90% true.
Yea but I will never trust a news source that sides with chuds in the culture war
If you allow the spectacle of the culture war to completely eclipse the urgency or capitalism and imperialism you might be a liberal.
What's your preferred news site?
Even if you hate foreign media it's good to stay in tune with what America's enemies are saying.
Show me a US media outlet which hasn't spread lies. Yet no one on Hexbear comments with a cringe face if you post a CNN article.
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What’s your preferred news site?
Here's a few (not Engl*sh):
https://jungle.world/
https://www.jungewelt.de/
https://www.nd-aktuell.de/ (with a grain of salt tho)
Engl*sh:
https://taz.de/taz-in-English/!t5354709/ (very :liberalism:)
https://www.dw.com/en/ (State sponsored media so don't go there for commentary)
https://www.vice.com/en (yellow press)
I also liked grayzone but I understand it's shit now (?)
Vice
:cringe:
dw
:cringe:
I actually think those news sources can be fine for certain narrow topics, I just wanted to return the cringe face favor.
Not familiar with the others.
Grayzone is still fine if you take Blumenthal with a grain of salt.
