Before you go too hard on "People get hurt by this so it's not funny" thing, you made a joke about people dying from covid because they refuse to wear a mask. Leftists have family members who are anti-vaxx and anti-mask who die from covid. You're just selectively choosing what to be mad about. You understand why laughing at destructive behavior is okay, you just don't like it in this one instance because it allows you to dunk on something you dislike. Felix's sense of humor is annoying but attributing this much moral baggage to it is out-of-touch.
This isn't an argument that you can't laugh at chuds hurting themselves, just that there is always a human element to this kind of stuff. You just don't care about the human element when it's not your side.
Neither did Felix about NOI. He said they were normal people who do normal people things. We already know the right can be racist scumbags with terrible opinions about everything but also help people change their flat tire. It's not a defense of right wingers, it's admitting they're not caricatures. I believe you already understand that. However it's chapo and they're problematic so we have to read everything in the most uncharitable way because at the end of the day they're cozy, white-passing media people. They have a history of saying slurs and making inappropriate jokes. People still cling to the idea that liking something problematic makes you a bad leftist because it's causing harm to those who are insulted. Which is why this thread is trying to make the case that Felix's post is causing harm. The idea that NOI couldn't have gotten this far without brocialists treating them as an ironic joke is pretty silly. But we have to mystify what causes harm because posting is mystical.
I care about the human element but I don't think posts are what determines the power of something. I think it's a mystification to treat NOI as if it gets power from out-of-touch white people not taking it seriously. Just like it's a mystification to think right wing ideas have a grip on US society because 4chan exists. It's ahistorical and not really grounded in the cause of right wing ideology. Posts aren't what drive the world. NOI isn't bad because podcasters make it into a joke. NOI isn't gaining followers because Felix isn't condemning it using his platform. The idea that harm is happening because of these posts is mystification of why harm happens.
The choice isn't being mad at Felix or you're supporting harm to children, gay people, and women. Just because I'm disagreeing with the way you seem to be conceptualizing how posting fits into political reality, it doesn't mean I support NOI or what harm they do.
Before you go too hard on "People get hurt by this so it's not funny" thing, you made a joke about people dying from covid because they refuse to wear a mask. Leftists have family members who are anti-vaxx and anti-mask who die from covid. You're just selectively choosing what to be mad about. You understand why laughing at destructive behavior is okay, you just don't like it in this one instance because it allows you to dunk on something you dislike. Felix's sense of humor is annoying but attributing this much moral baggage to it is out-of-touch.
This isn't an argument that you can't laugh at chuds hurting themselves, just that there is always a human element to this kind of stuff. You just don't care about the human element when it's not your side.
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Neither did Felix about NOI. He said they were normal people who do normal people things. We already know the right can be racist scumbags with terrible opinions about everything but also help people change their flat tire. It's not a defense of right wingers, it's admitting they're not caricatures. I believe you already understand that. However it's chapo and they're problematic so we have to read everything in the most uncharitable way because at the end of the day they're cozy, white-passing media people. They have a history of saying slurs and making inappropriate jokes. People still cling to the idea that liking something problematic makes you a bad leftist because it's causing harm to those who are insulted. Which is why this thread is trying to make the case that Felix's post is causing harm. The idea that NOI couldn't have gotten this far without brocialists treating them as an ironic joke is pretty silly. But we have to mystify what causes harm because posting is mystical.
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I care about the human element but I don't think posts are what determines the power of something. I think it's a mystification to treat NOI as if it gets power from out-of-touch white people not taking it seriously. Just like it's a mystification to think right wing ideas have a grip on US society because 4chan exists. It's ahistorical and not really grounded in the cause of right wing ideology. Posts aren't what drive the world. NOI isn't bad because podcasters make it into a joke. NOI isn't gaining followers because Felix isn't condemning it using his platform. The idea that harm is happening because of these posts is mystification of why harm happens.
The choice isn't being mad at Felix or you're supporting harm to children, gay people, and women. Just because I'm disagreeing with the way you seem to be conceptualizing how posting fits into political reality, it doesn't mean I support NOI or what harm they do.
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