the feds don’t particularly care about ideology, just that a group of marginalized people is creating a parallel power structure. the org / structure can be dysfunctional, it’s just the act of marginalized people coming together that scares the state.
it’s odd you’re painting the experiences of someone in kansas city as somehow being the same as someone from NYC. even weirder to claim that a breakaway group located in the midwest is the same as the larger group they broke away from. what are your thoughts on the NOI groups in NYC and DC?
interesting, okay. the folks I know who are in NOI in my city are about on par with moderate black southern baptists. They’re neutral on queerness and we volunteer at some of the same food kitchens.
The only negative talk I’ve heard from them is against white people, but it’s impossible to be racist against white people anyway so :vivian-shrug:
no idea about the Nation Of Islam’s behavior in other cities, but they’re not on my list of groups I’m worried about based on my experiences.
I know they scare the shit out of white supremacists, though, which is probably why that 4chan shooter had a picture of yakuba pinned up in his saw trap of an apartment.
They are literally where the racist “We Wuz Kangz” meme came from.
I don’t know the meme, but “we were kings” is a completely understandable framing of the African diaspora.
The shooter had a pic of Yakub in his house because the 4 Channers make fun of the idea that Yakub created white people and call that action “based”
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anyway yeah, I 100% would not allow my kids to have white dolls. People of color get enough white beauty standards every day.
Everyone here was freaking out about that news story of Texas schools running “illegal immigrant drills” to stoke fear in kids, but NOI parents literally do thing in this vein to their kids at home.
wanting my kids to play with toys that look like them makes me a white lib mom lol ok
Where I heard about this? My partner’s NOI loving parent screaming that Mexicans would kidnap and sell her during the race war? Any online NOI content pertaining to the undocumented?
okay, so send that online NOI content over then. I’m not finding anything.
I don’t have much of an opinion on modern NOI aside from the followers I regularly volunteered with who have all been fine. I’m not a fan of Farrakhan, who is antisemitic. People frequently try to point to him as a way to equate white nationalism and black nationalism, which is cringe and inaccurate.
the feds don’t particularly care about ideology, just that a group of marginalized people is creating a parallel power structure. the org / structure can be dysfunctional, it’s just the act of marginalized people coming together that scares the state.
it’s odd you’re painting the experiences of someone in kansas city as somehow being the same as someone from NYC. even weirder to claim that a breakaway group located in the midwest is the same as the larger group they broke away from. what are your thoughts on the NOI groups in NYC and DC?
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interesting, okay. the folks I know who are in NOI in my city are about on par with moderate black southern baptists. They’re neutral on queerness and we volunteer at some of the same food kitchens.
The only negative talk I’ve heard from them is against white people, but it’s impossible to be racist against white people anyway so :vivian-shrug:
no idea about the Nation Of Islam’s behavior in other cities, but they’re not on my list of groups I’m worried about based on my experiences.
I know they scare the shit out of white supremacists, though, which is probably why that 4chan shooter had a picture of yakuba pinned up in his saw trap of an apartment.
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I don’t know the meme, but “we were kings” is a completely understandable framing of the African diaspora.
:fash-bash:
anyway yeah, I 100% would not allow my kids to have white dolls. People of color get enough white beauty standards every day.
You want to link to where you heard about that?
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wanting my kids to play with toys that look like them makes me a white lib mom lol ok
okay, so send that online NOI content over then. I’m not finding anything.
I don’t have much of an opinion on modern NOI aside from the followers I regularly volunteered with who have all been fine. I’m not a fan of Farrakhan, who is antisemitic. People frequently try to point to him as a way to equate white nationalism and black nationalism, which is cringe and inaccurate.
This thread is so good :chefs-kiss:
:billie-eilish-anarchist: thank you 🙏 it’s been fun to write between errands
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