• NomadicWarMachine [any]
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    3 years ago

    Crimethinc or It’s Going Down

    Probably because one of those is likely and op and the other nobody has heard of

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "Don't want to send this to something which is an op, who do we contact?"

      "Let's send it to the Bellingcat guy that tweets state department talking points all day."

      • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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        3 years ago

        Well I mean yeah, Evans sucks too.

        Op or not I don’t think Crimethinc really does news so doesn’t really make sense to send it to them. Also there like super disorganized so idk who’d you’d send it too.

      • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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        3 years ago

        It’s Going Down probably ain’t

        Crimethinc is too disorganized to really “BE AN OP” so that was reductive of me to say. I can’t find it now but someone did do a write up of how projects linked to the org just happen to have a weirdly large number of Fed informants. I doubt the org was created by the fed but it wouldn’t surprise me if some of their more active affiliates were run by feds.

        • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          That could be the case but i find it highly unlikely that something that has anything to do with intelligence would publish long articles on how to defend against police tactics/what kind of crowd control weapons riot cops use/etc.

          Not saying i dismiss the idea but it would surprise me for sure.

          • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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            3 years ago

            They spread good info on how to be more effective at street protest shit but really I don’t think opssec really cares about punk kids getting away with stenciling 7/11s more easily. They’re more concerned with destabilizing any attempt to make a mass organized left. Thing is most Crimethinc associated groups seem to espouse some flavor of anprim/post-left ideology that openly rejects the notion of mass organizing. They’ve also published works rejecting Marxism and saying shit like that Lenin was a German secret agent which is pretty blatant anti-communism propaganda. They’re mission plan for revolution is basically to drop out of society with a group of like 20 some odd friends, and I think convincing the western left to basically just be slightly more radical Hippies ain’t out of line with the feds goals.

            Also it does seem weird that a group that basically started as a lose network of like 100 crust punks in North Carolina who photocopied zines about how to finger someone property (no joke, in my high school punk years I got my hands on some early crimethinc shit and it was like poorly photocopied material about how to have safe sex without condoms and like and deal with diabetes without insulin) suddenly started putting out really slick looking full color hardback propaganda books for surprisingly cheap.

            I think it’s still mostly just a group of crust punk kids putting out whatever under the same label, but it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the cells putting out more high quality shit are getting some kind of FBI backing.

            • tagen
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              1 year ago

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