He sold penny stocks for like 30 years so I'm sure the number of people he's actively harmed in his life probably evens out when you look at how wealthy they were. :gulag:
A lot of people had their pension funds wiped by him. It's essentially the same problem @cryptodipshit alluded to in his post. Capitalists hold the world hostage and they are going to hurt a lot of people on the way down as they fall. But capitalism's collapse due to its own contradictions is going to end up hurting those same people (all of us, really) anyway.
hi, i tried to pm you since you're a mod. i can't pm for 24 hours since this was a throwaway account. is there a way i can ask you about something in private? otherwise i guess i can wait a day. i'd rather not post it publicly given the backlash i've already received. thanks.
whatever i guess i'll just post what i wrote to you here because i need to get away from this site and log off for a few days for my own mental health and i don't wanna come back tomorrow to pm this to you. worst case i've said my peace and you can delete it and my account if you want. not really sure what else to say, i just want to have my peace heard:
hi, messaging you since you're a mod of the comm i posted to. i was wondering where the line is when someone shares something personal. i only shared that i invested in crypto as an example that people among our ranks are investing to try to improve their lives. i shouldn't need to explain my entire story to avoid people sending me hateful messages but apparently i do. my partner bought crypto before i knew her and her loss is a little worse than mine. i was prepared to lose my money but i don't think she really understood. this is my whole point of my thread. people aren't terminally online like this community is and i really am uncomfortable with people taking pleasure in other people's suffering. i think it's fine to cheer on the collapse of crypto as an individual thing, but many users are now targeting me as it's a good thing that i personally lost money like i am some scumbag who is killing the earth. it seems there is no ethical consumption under capitalism unless it's crypto and then it's free reign to shit all over them. i would be willing to bet a huge portion of this community has some retirement fund with defense stocks in it and i'm not trying to shit on them for that. i was simply trying to say that i think the leftist position is NOT to shit on victims of a pyramid scheme. it should be to educate people so it doesn't happen again and to be precise with where the blame lies, which is obviously the people who are not currently getting fucked over, like me. but somehow now, i'm the bad guy here and i'm actually honestly very hurt by some of the responses. obviously this is a throwaway and thank god i did that, but i do post on this site every single day and i have been part of the sub since 2016. maybe i am not the one true leftist, but i do try. i am an organizer and know a little theory. i feel like suddenly here i am having to prove im not a piece of shit and this whole thing feels so bad. i was really hurt by a lot of people's responses to my thread and i think it's incumbent upon this community to be accountable for how we address this. i personally am ok with some degree of crab dancing at the whole pyramid collapsing but i think it's wildly bad form to tell people things like "gg" "be smarter next time" and things like that which are some real responses i got from real users of this site. i'm really dumbfounded by the response and i'm gonna take a break from the site for a few days but i'm wondering if you can illuminate for me where the line is between this being a victory for leftist discourse and shitting on everyone who got hurt by it, because right now i feel like a leftist (or i thought i was) who is suddenly in the crossfire. i posted in good faith, i almost wish i had just posted it without the bit about myself in it. i was just trying to personalize it. anyway thanks for reading. if i'm totally wrong about all this you can feel free to ban me, i'm really lacking perspective right now i guess.
anyway that's what i wanted to send. just wish it was considered a little more than the people you're cheering on who lost money are by and large your friends and relatives. elon musk is fine. this can be the last message of my humiliating public meltdown. thanks.
I'm sorry for the rough experience. I'll share this with the rest of the mod team. Also, if you received hateful private messages about your post, please let me know.
In terms of moderation and where the line is, I last looked at the thread a couple hours ago, so there is definitely a delay between the posting of any comments that would be cause for moderator action and said moderator action.
thanks for hearing me, that does mean a lot. i'm going to delete all of my posts and logoff this account and take a break for some days. if there's a way to delete the account or ban or whatever you can feel free to. i'm just tired of defending my shitty life to chuds and now also to people who i thought were my community. if i had more energy i might leave it all up and try to fight and prove my point but i'm fucking tired. we've all been through a lot the past few years and if trying to make a little money for your family loses me my leftist card then oh well, i fucking tried. i'm angry about this but i just want to be done so this will be it. i guess as far my interaction with you goes, it's been positive and thanks for hearing me out. peace.
if you can, please don't delete your last comment, as I'd like to share it with the rest of the moderation team. the feedback is important for people to hear.
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hmmm but if there's an afterlife where does he go? he scammed but he scammed the richest afaik
He sold penny stocks for like 30 years so I'm sure the number of people he's actively harmed in his life probably evens out when you look at how wealthy they were. :gulag:
A lot of people had their pension funds wiped by him. It's essentially the same problem @cryptodipshit alluded to in his post. Capitalists hold the world hostage and they are going to hurt a lot of people on the way down as they fall. But capitalism's collapse due to its own contradictions is going to end up hurting those same people (all of us, really) anyway.
Which is why our mascots are :sicko-blur: and :joker-troll:
The rules are made up, the game is rigged, the only thing that's certain is you'll lose everything when the cards come tumbling down.
hi, i tried to pm you since you're a mod. i can't pm for 24 hours since this was a throwaway account. is there a way i can ask you about something in private? otherwise i guess i can wait a day. i'd rather not post it publicly given the backlash i've already received. thanks.
that's fine. yes, there is a limit on new accounts being able to dm.
but I'm happy to talk to you privately.
wait a day or two, then dm.
if it's urgent, maybe ping carac0sa and ask if there are other options.
whatever i guess i'll just post what i wrote to you here because i need to get away from this site and log off for a few days for my own mental health and i don't wanna come back tomorrow to pm this to you. worst case i've said my peace and you can delete it and my account if you want. not really sure what else to say, i just want to have my peace heard:
hi, messaging you since you're a mod of the comm i posted to. i was wondering where the line is when someone shares something personal. i only shared that i invested in crypto as an example that people among our ranks are investing to try to improve their lives. i shouldn't need to explain my entire story to avoid people sending me hateful messages but apparently i do. my partner bought crypto before i knew her and her loss is a little worse than mine. i was prepared to lose my money but i don't think she really understood. this is my whole point of my thread. people aren't terminally online like this community is and i really am uncomfortable with people taking pleasure in other people's suffering. i think it's fine to cheer on the collapse of crypto as an individual thing, but many users are now targeting me as it's a good thing that i personally lost money like i am some scumbag who is killing the earth. it seems there is no ethical consumption under capitalism unless it's crypto and then it's free reign to shit all over them. i would be willing to bet a huge portion of this community has some retirement fund with defense stocks in it and i'm not trying to shit on them for that. i was simply trying to say that i think the leftist position is NOT to shit on victims of a pyramid scheme. it should be to educate people so it doesn't happen again and to be precise with where the blame lies, which is obviously the people who are not currently getting fucked over, like me. but somehow now, i'm the bad guy here and i'm actually honestly very hurt by some of the responses. obviously this is a throwaway and thank god i did that, but i do post on this site every single day and i have been part of the sub since 2016. maybe i am not the one true leftist, but i do try. i am an organizer and know a little theory. i feel like suddenly here i am having to prove im not a piece of shit and this whole thing feels so bad. i was really hurt by a lot of people's responses to my thread and i think it's incumbent upon this community to be accountable for how we address this. i personally am ok with some degree of crab dancing at the whole pyramid collapsing but i think it's wildly bad form to tell people things like "gg" "be smarter next time" and things like that which are some real responses i got from real users of this site. i'm really dumbfounded by the response and i'm gonna take a break from the site for a few days but i'm wondering if you can illuminate for me where the line is between this being a victory for leftist discourse and shitting on everyone who got hurt by it, because right now i feel like a leftist (or i thought i was) who is suddenly in the crossfire. i posted in good faith, i almost wish i had just posted it without the bit about myself in it. i was just trying to personalize it. anyway thanks for reading. if i'm totally wrong about all this you can feel free to ban me, i'm really lacking perspective right now i guess.
anyway that's what i wanted to send. just wish it was considered a little more than the people you're cheering on who lost money are by and large your friends and relatives. elon musk is fine. this can be the last message of my humiliating public meltdown. thanks.
I'm sorry for the rough experience. I'll share this with the rest of the mod team. Also, if you received hateful private messages about your post, please let me know.
In terms of moderation and where the line is, I last looked at the thread a couple hours ago, so there is definitely a delay between the posting of any comments that would be cause for moderator action and said moderator action.
thanks for hearing me, that does mean a lot. i'm going to delete all of my posts and logoff this account and take a break for some days. if there's a way to delete the account or ban or whatever you can feel free to. i'm just tired of defending my shitty life to chuds and now also to people who i thought were my community. if i had more energy i might leave it all up and try to fight and prove my point but i'm fucking tired. we've all been through a lot the past few years and if trying to make a little money for your family loses me my leftist card then oh well, i fucking tried. i'm angry about this but i just want to be done so this will be it. i guess as far my interaction with you goes, it's been positive and thanks for hearing me out. peace.
if you can, please don't delete your last comment, as I'd like to share it with the rest of the moderation team. the feedback is important for people to hear.
sure
thank you