Evwryone loses Viet Nam. And Afghanistan. They've got plot armour. In 200,000 years, when humanity is gone, the planet is solely populated by uplifted mantises and a life form that evolved from Shamrock Shake residue, the mantis capitals will be HCMC and Kabul.

It’s unlikely that the average American even knows that china fought Vietnam shortly after the US lost, or that it was Vietnamese communists who stopped Pol Pot’s genocide. I’m 90% sure what they’re thinking is that China lost the civil war because the KMT retreated to Taiwan lol