WHATS A GOOD BUILD???

i rolled the clan and shit pretty blind, no idea what i was doing. gunplay is frustrating and offensive magic that doesn't buff melee is too weak. so far im just blasting thru with a fireax and tryna sneak when i can but both feeding and stealth kills are like 50/50 if they'll actually connect

WHY ARE THE ELEVATORS WORSE THAN MASS EFFECT?

i spent literally 20 minutes going thru every button in that apartment complex downtown :angery:

HOW DO I KEEP MISSING SUPER OBVIOUS QUEST OBJECTIVES?

walk by a dude im supposed to talk to three frickin times i stg

WHYS IT SO FOOKIN DARK?

i installed an enb. it was a mistake and i have to use nightvision and torch way more than i should

WHY WOULD ANYONE SIDE WITH THE CAMARILLA? FUCK DO MY VAMPIRE TAXES GO TO? I AINT GOT HEALTHCARE OR NUTHIN

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    lol this thread made me decide to go hurt myself and see if there was any news on vtmb2 (yeah i know)

    top thread on the steam forum:

    text (that last sentence :gamer-gulag: )

    People were asking in other posts, why people think this game and it's franchise is being made by SJW's

    To answer that, and prove it, try and get into the tabletop, try some DND and VTM, and see the difference, it is absolutely filled with extreme authoritarian SJW madness.

    The entire VTM WoD(World of darkness) community, it's cause idiots who know nothing of the lore, think vampires are sexy, and if you look at a lot of promotional material, for these new games there are so many female devs constantly mentioning being a "Sexy" vampire.

    Without realizing the very shallow lore (not even the deeper stuff) that vampires are basically asexual and dead, and meant to be alien and monstrous, very far from humanity.

    These are the type of people making it.

    if you want some examples, these are the type of people playing it, look at any other game, sad cause the DM/ST's are all always great.

    Again, try and join any roll20 game, I literally found 2 games out of 50+ i got into that I wasn't immediately kicked out for, for LEGITIMATELY nothing.

    The people that "Play" on these if you can even say that, are always terrified of having even the tiniest bit of self-respect, and they've whispered me so, cause it's just kick kick kick.

    Left used to be equality, and freedom for all, now it's just about ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with people in society and making them jump through hoops to increase the social power of those doing these things.

    read the V5 (5th edition) rulebook of tabletop VTM, it literally mentions that "nazi's" aren't welcome, these are who own white wolf now, the franchise is damned.


    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I literally found 2 games out of 50+ i got into that I wasn’t immediately kicked out for, for LEGITIMATELY nothing.

      I can only imagine what their screen name must have been.

      it literally mentions that “nazi’s” aren’t welcome, these are who own white wolf now, the franchise is damned.

      LOOOOL

      vampires are basically asexual and dead

      I know Interview with the Vampire is an old people movie but oh my goaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. I spent so much time wearing shitty faux velvet and drinking terrible wine when I was young.

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
        ·
        edit-2
        3 years ago

        I've read all of the Vampire Chronicles up to Blood Canticle at least a few times and let me tell you, those vampires fuck, or at the least are super horny.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I didn't realize I was attracted to anyone but women until I was in my late 20s which is positively ridiculous in retrospect given how many times I reread the gay vampire sex scenes in The Vampire Armand as a teenager.

    • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
      ·
      3 years ago

      that vampires are basically asexual and dead

      What the hell is this person talking about? Sex is mentioned frequently in the VTM rulebook. Now, the way vampires fuck is weird and creepy and gross, and they have to expend precious resources in order to do it 'normally,' and also they get more pleasure from sucking people's blood than fucking, but they're still often very sexual creatures.

      Now, asexual vampires are more common than asexual humans. And the older the vampire gets, the less likely they are to be interested in sex. Playing a totally asexual vampire is entirely valid. But it is by no means the default, especially not for "young" vampires.

      • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
        ·
        edit-2
        3 years ago

        "Nobody in Clan Toreador canonically fucks, especially Velvet Valor." -Person who has definitely played bloodlines and should dictate what goes on in bloodlines 2

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Sex is mentioned frequently in the VTM rulebook. Now, the way vampires fuck is weird and creepy and gross, and they have to expend precious resources in order to do it ‘normally,’ and also they get more pleasure from sucking people’s blood than fucking, but they’re still often very sexual creatures.

        I always had them billed more as seductive than sexual. Using sex like a fisherman uses bait on a hook. But sexuality is a human trait that vampires are parroting, while the real Joy of Sex for a vampire is in sating the cannibalistic cravings of their Beast.

        Playing a totally asexual vampire is entirely valid. But it is by no means the default, especially not for “young” vampires.

        One of the first tropes of the neophyte vampire is the "Feeding is better than sex!" revelation. Meanwhile, the mortal/vampire relationship trajectory inevitably involves the vampire growing increasingly debauched and vulgar in its desires while dragging the mortal along for an ugly ride.

        Most players don't want to explore themes of domestic violence, emotional abuse, sadomasochism, and the sexualization of murder. So they keep it horny in order to keep the games light and fun. But crack open any of the supplements on Ghouls, for instance, and you get into some really sick shit. Things that are only "sexual" in a very tangential sense.

        • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I always had them billed more as seductive than sexual. Using sex like a fisherman uses bait on a hook. But sexuality is a human trait that vampires are parroting, while the real Joy of Sex for a vampire is in sating the cannibalistic cravings of their Beast.

          Sure, that's what I meant by "the way vampires fuck is weird and creepy and gross." At a fundamental level, vampires in VTM are predators, and that extends to every aspect of their life, including sex.

          But that doesn't make them asexual.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Not asexual per say. But I wouldn't call what Jeffery Dommer did "sexy"

      • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        "Fellas, is it heterophobia if my neophyte vampire can't slay an ancient Methuselah blood god?"

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      read the V5 (5th edition) rulebook of tabletop VTM, it literally mentions that “nazi’s” aren’t welcome

      Good?

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Didn't the old editions have some extremely moronic commie-nazi lore about the Brujah?

      Like Heinrich Himmler was a Brujah in East Germany or something.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
        ·
        edit-2
        3 years ago

        There is nothing about any particular clan that makes it predisposed to one side or the other. The Prince of Berlin was a Ventrue. But then so was the Prince of London. You'll find Brujah in the French Underground, the Soviet Union, the Auschwitz death camps, the Italian Brownshirts, the and Ukrainian anarchist insurgents, in roughly equal number. The World Wars are written as much a civil war among the Supernaturals as they were among mortal Europeans.

        Past that Vampires are supposed to be inherently corrupt and self-obsessed. Implying that Brujah might be playing German Fascists and Soviet Revolutionaries off one another to maximize the opportunity to feed, loot, and debase themselves is... right in line with the lore.

        Focusing on whether some edgy splat-book writing amateur got all the thematic notes right in a book whose sales barely justified it being printed is missing the forest for the trees. Go back to the core material and you're not going to find "Virtuous Vampires" anywhere. The real mistake in the writing tends to be replacing any IRL people with Supernaturals, when the premise of the game is always that these creatures stand above and behind the public movers and shakers.

        Himmler should never have been written as a Vampire of any clan, period. But Himmler's mistress? One of his staff officers? A little-known sponsor of his family's pre-war fortune? That's where the monsters are supposed to hide.

      • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Weren't the Brujah the offical clan of the Soviet Union? Did they do a "Hitler and Stalin were friends" but with vampires or did they make the Nazi's rouge Brujah?