I think the American idea of patriotism is too steeped in conservative ideals to be patriotic and socialist. All those other countries had hundreds of years of history and culture that you could reasonably divorce from the ruling ideology. America is built on the "freedom to oppress" and capitalist notions of protestant work ethic. Like maybe you could take the stance of equating capitalism to king george? But this country was founded to kill Indians, run slave plantations, and churn money for landlords. For a significant chunk of white America, their idea of patriotism includes flying the stars and bars and saying the CSA was just defending their homeland. How do you divorce that kind of patriotism from the inequality?
I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, I just don't know how you turn American patriotism into comradely revolutionary spirit, except on the very surface level.
The founders of colonial governments throughout North America pretty explicitly designed white supremacy into their patriotism. It forms a very necessary insulating wall of bodies around the bourgeoise that they need to protect themselves from the dangers of slave revolts. They also outlawed miscegnation for the same reason: to prevent PoC from gaining real citizenship and fucking up the hierarchal stratification.
I think the American idea of patriotism is too steeped in conservative ideals to be patriotic and socialist. All those other countries had hundreds of years of history and culture that you could reasonably divorce from the ruling ideology. America is built on the "freedom to oppress" and capitalist notions of protestant work ethic. Like maybe you could take the stance of equating capitalism to king george? But this country was founded to kill Indians, run slave plantations, and churn money for landlords. For a significant chunk of white America, their idea of patriotism includes flying the stars and bars and saying the CSA was just defending their homeland. How do you divorce that kind of patriotism from the inequality?
I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, I just don't know how you turn American patriotism into comradely revolutionary spirit, except on the very surface level.
The founders of colonial governments throughout North America pretty explicitly designed white supremacy into their patriotism. It forms a very necessary insulating wall of bodies around the bourgeoise that they need to protect themselves from the dangers of slave revolts. They also outlawed miscegnation for the same reason: to prevent PoC from gaining real citizenship and fucking up the hierarchal stratification.
Yes, both bourgeois nationalism and racism were invented in order to build false solidarity with the bourgeoisie