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What’s your favorite type of weird guy on Hexbear?
Removed by modYou know, the ones that aren’t trolls, but still wind up banned for being awful to be around
You know, the ones that aren’t trolls, but still wind up banned for being awful to be around
The ones that demand a CW for completely normal shit you see in real life all the time. Like, I get wanting somewhere to escape from pictures of meats or something, but also, how do you handle real life?
That or the people who respond to every post with the same reddit brained "joke", whether it's an emoji or a cliche reddit type phrase
I'm sure I'll get set straight about this one, but there's my contribution
Edit: doing the thing as a reply on this thread is peak reddit
now I agree with this a lil’, cept the “CW meat” rule showed up because a different type of weird guy started spamming pics of whole hogs being roasted lua style and albanian roasted sheep skull delicacies
those are technically food but it’s a long way from some abstract chicken tendies smothered in
cracker sauceketchup:side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:
Should have just banned the guy for being a shithead instead of playing it all psudo-legal like libs then.
Although the way I remember it going down was slightly different than that and justified the rule.
Basically a wrecker was successfully baiting a lot of vegans into pointless struggle sessions and had managed to get a fire going, so to speak. That is, they managed to get enough strife and drama going that if they had gone completely hands off at that point it would have taken a while to die down without intervention.
The mods managed to shut it down by imposing the rule and banning people who refused to let the nonsense die. It only took like a day and a half and it was over, pretty impressive.
I mean, there's definitely a line, and that was just my example. All I'm getting at is these things exist in the real world and avoiding directly discussing things really makes me feel like it's a "you know who/Voldemort" thing.
Trigger warnings specifically have roots in mental health support groups and the point of them is not to never be exposed to a trigger. It’s to have a space where people who rarely/never feel safe specifically because they are being constantly triggered by living their daily lives are able to let down their guard and approach those issues on their own terms.
The reality of making this a safe space for various marginalized groups is that it involves us accommodating each other. I didn’t even realize I had triggers before I started hanging out in communities like this and observing these norms (which btw this community isn’t even that strict about). It’s actually helped quite a bit to be able to get into the habit of avoiding specific topics if I’m having a bad day and I’ve managed to increase my tolerance over time to the point where I’m not triggered more than a couple times a year.
I guess I just miss there being a space like the old sub. This is kind of where I go to spit out my poison so I don't do it to people in real life. Now that reddit shut down every leftist space, I have nowhere to get my spicy content.
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How do you define food?
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That's not a definition of food. That's a quality you'd like your food to have, but any random rock I find is cruelty free but I would not say a granite boulder is food. I am asking, if you wrote a dictionary and I flipped to the word "food," what would I find there? I'm not gonna debate any legitimate definition, I want to better understand how you see the topic
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I agree, but we're in the minority
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:homer-bye:
:jesse-wtf:
Take my updoot!
I did Nazi that coming
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beautiful: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/EOrqM8ABDS.jpg
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Hey, I'm down, but how do you handle it when you see a hamburger on a billboard?
:im-vegan: by the way, I just think it would behoove the movement to have a thicker skin
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It is already normalized. It's going to take a lot of work to undo. Probably won't see any change in our lifetime. The hogs need bacon wrapped shrimp so bad, they're willing to burn the planet down for it.
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I'm sorry for coming across so cynical. I just want you to know I'm on your side, I just see inconsistencies on here and feel like it's worth talking about.
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lmfao
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Wanting a CW on something is not the same thing as being unable to handle seeing it. In the same way having preferred pronouns doesn't mean that I can't handle being called by the wrong ones. Just because someone can put up with something doesn't mean we should make them put up with it, if we can easily accommodate them.
Where's the line? There's a big ass spider and two pictures of someone about to be murdered on the main page right now with no CW.
Maybe everything should default to the CW filter and everyone can decide where their personal line is.
Has anyone said that those images bother them, and asked for a CW?
I saw a poster recently argue that pigpoopballs was unsettling because they had IBS and seeing shit running down the balls of a pig was uncomfortable, and everyone dogpiled them and told them to chill.
It seems to me that there is no standard. Is the standard "whatever I can get people to agree with and if they don't, oh well guess I have to look at stuff that upsets me because nobody had my back"?
This is just social construction theory. Yes, this is how it works. If a particular kind of content is triggering for a large enough portion of users in a space who feel like they can voice their concerns, they’ll do so and that rule can be codified to accommodate those people.
That threshold can vary from issue to issue and group to group and doesn’t have to involve a majority of people of even a particularly large minority. So, for example, transphobia is not required to be CWed on this site because a large enough percentage of us have a common basis for figuring out what kinds of transphobia are acceptable to discuss openly vs which should be spoilered
I guess the seemingly arbitrary nature confuses me sometimes. I'm not advocating for a change to the rule, I just have my own opinions about it
That’s fair. I struggle with that as well sometimes. But usually the devil’s in the details and you can find explanations for specific rules if you ask around. Either that or no one can explain it and the rule can disappear
For me, it's easy enough to just not engage if I feel like there's a weird grey area. On the other hand, I think it can be worthwhile to challenge norms by at least bringing it up. It's real easy to not be an asshole. It is a little hard to keep up with the rule changes if you're not a power user on hexbear. I have so much stuff flying around in my head at any given time.
I mean, yeah? Do you think it'd be better to have an objective set of rules? Imo it's pretty subjective what needs it and what doesn't, so I think that handling it socially makes sense.
Putting a CW on PPB would directly interfere with the point of PPB as a shock image to hit wreckers with, and it sounds like it was really just one person. It's unfortunate for them, but I agree with that judgement call, personally.
I guess the arbitrarity(?) of it confuses me. I don't have any particular triggers, and I understand people that do. I sympathize with them, and want to make the world a better place. PPB being "shocking" and used as a tool to bully others is a weird concept when we try to accommodate and make everyone welcome, or swiftly give them the boot.
Personally, I'm pro bullying. This site has conflicting views on bullying. I got a post removed because I didn't sympathize with a crypto-bro who allegedly lost all of his money. Then, I see a bunch of screengrabs of people crying about the same thing and people on here dunking on them..
The lesson I learned I guess was " it's ok to be an asshole behind people's backs, but once they set foot on hexbear, we can't. Even if they're here in bad faith".
I wasn't trying to start a struggle sesh, and I hope you and I can be cool. I just think there are a lot of polarizing opinions here that are hard to navigate sometimes.
Yeah I mean I agree, that's kinda an inherent contradiction in the whole "dirtbag left" concept. On the one hand, we want to be inclusive, but on the other hand we want to bully the libs. I think there's bound to be edge cases and mistakes and such while trying to square the two.
It's hard to know where the line is sometimes. My post was removed because "we shouldn't kick fellow proles when they're down". I agree we shouldn't kick comrades at all, but I don't think anyone who bought into crypto is on the same page as the rest of us. I get being desperate, but destroying the planet for digital beanie babies is not leftist.
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