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What’s your favorite type of weird guy on Hexbear?
Removed by modYou know, the ones that aren’t trolls, but still wind up banned for being awful to be around
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PatSoc and Nazism
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If you’re patriotic for an imperialist fascist state…then you’re a fascist
That was one of the biggest falls from grace I've ever witnessed online
they went from a bit poster, to being a “patriot socialist”, to being a sexist, to defending american war crimes in vietnam, to defending nazi death camp guards
edit: forgot that they later got banned from a discord server for arguing that transphobia is okay
where they unsurprisingly complain about woke cancel culture from “third world maoists”!
lol
lmao
:wojak-nooo: THE FILIPINO GUERILLAS ARE BEING MEAN TO ME ONLINE!
Also, they were active on the old sub. That poster was definitely on the long con
that’s our good buddy @Shitbird, probably my favorite alcoholic bird literally covered in shit!
The saga of Dave is probably one of the funniest things ever posted on this site.
“many of us have social anxiety”
“okay orgs have other jobs they need done”
“no still ableist”
similar type of guy: claimed book clubs were ableist and then tantrumed when someone recorded an audio book for people
lukewarm take: it’s ableist to claim ND people can’t read, organize, or affect change
They also admitted to working at a munitions factory lmao
maybe don’t rant about this on a leftist website lolol
lmao China bad what we really need is ONE HALF of a worker's party controlled state.
That's a new level of centrism I've never seen before.
Lol goddamnit I'm so pissed I never saw that one. Like actually mad mad
has entryism ever worked? The Democratic party must be too far gone at least.
My favorite type of weird guy is the dude who makes increasingly strange demands of mods, things like “what are we even doing if we don’t have a c/Zoroastrianism moderated by actual zoroastrain monks? DOES THIS SITE NOT CARE ABOUT THE POOR?? AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO GIVES THREE SHITS ABOUT ZARATHUSTRA”
now don’t get me wrong, I love Zoroastrian thought same as any body, but it’s a niche faith.
“what are we even doing if we don’t have a c/longingforcamels moderated by actual sentient camels? DOES THIS SITE NOT CARE ABOUT THE POOR?? AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE WHO GIVES THREE SHITS ABOUT PACADERMS”
was just going with the funniest option here:
In Avestan, Zaraθuštra is generally accepted to derive from an Old Iranian *Zaratuštra-; The element half of the name (-uštra-) is thought to be the Indo-Iranian root for "camel", with the entire name meaning "he who can manage camels".[14][a] Reconstructions from later Iranian languages—particularly from the Middle Persian (300 BC) Zardusht,[further explanation needed] which is the form that the name took in the 9th- to 12th-century Zoroastrian texts—suggest that *Zaratuštra- might be a zero-grade form of *Zarantuštra-.[14] Subject then to whether Zaraθuštra derives from *Zarantuštra- or from *Zaratuštra-, several interpretations have been proposed.[b]
If Zarantuštra is the original form, it may mean "with old/aging camels",[14] related to Avestic zarant-[13] (cf. Pashto zōṛ and Ossetian zœrond, "old"; Middle Persian zāl, "old"):[15]
- "with angry/furious camels": from Avestan *zarant-, "angry, furious".[16]
- "who is driving camels" or "who is fostering/cherishing camels": related to Avestan zarš-, "to drag".[17]
- Mayrhofer (1977) proposed an etymology of "who is desiring camels" or "longing for camels" and related to Vedic Sanskrit har-, "to like", and perhaps (though ambiguous) also to Avestan zara-.[16]
- "with yellow camels": parallel to Younger Avestan zairi-.[18]
The interpretation of the -θ- (/θ/) in Avestan zaraθuštra was for a time itself subjected to heated debate because the -θ- is an irregular development: As a rule, *zarat- (a first element that ends in a dental consonant) should have Avestan zarat- or zarat̰- as a development from it. Why this is not so for zaraθuštra has not yet been determined. Notwithstanding the phonetic irregularity, that Avestan zaraθuštra with its -θ- was linguistically an actual form is shown by later attestations reflecting the same basis.[14] All present-day, Iranian-language variants of his name derive from the Middle Iranian variants of Zarθošt, which, in turn, all reflect Avestan's fricative -θ-.[citation needed]
I’m not gonna read all that, but I now appreciate how clever the pun is! Thank you!
Remember when a user posted like twice a day every day for c/menby and kept insisting that mods hated trans men when it didn’t get made even though there was a pinned post about how the requests weren’t checked very often?
the ones who mistake their own personal preferences as leftism, like the linux is anarchist microsoft is marxist leninist guy, or the one who angrily ranted about disallowing people to have their own kitchens and forcing them to eat a limited diet cafeteria style with no other options
This. There is no one set of rules for being a leftist. It starts with "capitalism is bad" and fractures into all sorts of ways of thinking from there. I don't think forcing a narrow viewpoint is going to advance the cause. To some extent, we need to be "medium to big tent" leftists. Let's not make the same mistake "big tent Democrats" make, but you're going to turn a lot of people off by railroading groupthink. Whom'st among us didn't have bad opinions at one point until we were allowed to exist in leftist spaces and learn?
It’s definitely a balance. “Big tent” can very easily wind up being shorthand for “tolerating bigotry”. If privileged people tolerate that, then they’re fine using the rights of others as bargaining chips
Now someone bring a purely electoralist lib is whatever, I dgaf about that tbh
Right. That's one of many places Dems go wrong. They let anyone in if they can trojan horse their way in. I don't want to see that here, I just think the bar for entry is "capitalism bad, fascism bad". Obviously there is plenty of room to figure out more nuanced versions of that
There is no one set of rules for being a leftist
wrong the rule is when you agree with me the one true leftist you are a leftist but when you disagree you are a revisionist splitter
That's true. The first person to log on after the clock hits midnight gets the one true leftist crown
The ones who make normal posts but delete them after a few seconds because they're insecure.
It's okay. I still saw your post. It wasn't that bad or anything. It's okay to post stuff. Don't worry about it. We all make a fool of ourselves at times but you weren't even being foolish.
The many alts of BMF hands down. This sight just wouldn't be the same without them
This is an interesting development for a forum pretty much made just for Marxists. But my musical tastes have been expanded greatly lately! So I can't complain. It's good stuff.
Not banned, but I stan the kween of bits
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(also, a world without BMF would be lifeless and hollow)
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Some of you are just airing grievances :no-oil:
"Political power flows from the barrel of a Fuller Brush"
almost always a Bordiga acolyte
:bordiga-despair: leaving my armchair is opportunist!!
The ones that demand a CW for completely normal shit you see in real life all the time. Like, I get wanting somewhere to escape from pictures of meats or something, but also, how do you handle real life?
That or the people who respond to every post with the same reddit brained "joke", whether it's an emoji or a cliche reddit type phrase
I'm sure I'll get set straight about this one, but there's my contribution
Edit: doing the thing as a reply on this thread is peak reddit
now I agree with this a lil’, cept the “CW meat” rule showed up because a different type of weird guy started spamming pics of whole hogs being roasted lua style and albanian roasted sheep skull delicacies
those are technically food but it’s a long way from some abstract chicken tendies smothered in
cracker sauceketchupThat or the people who respond to every post with the same reddit brained “joke”, whether it’s an emoji or a cliche reddit type phrase
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Should have just banned the guy for being a shithead instead of playing it all psudo-legal like libs then.
Although the way I remember it going down was slightly different than that and justified the rule.
Basically a wrecker was successfully baiting a lot of vegans into pointless struggle sessions and had managed to get a fire going, so to speak. That is, they managed to get enough strife and drama going that if they had gone completely hands off at that point it would have taken a while to die down without intervention.
The mods managed to shut it down by imposing the rule and banning people who refused to let the nonsense die. It only took like a day and a half and it was over, pretty impressive.
I mean, there's definitely a line, and that was just my example. All I'm getting at is these things exist in the real world and avoiding directly discussing things really makes me feel like it's a "you know who/Voldemort" thing.
Trigger warnings specifically have roots in mental health support groups and the point of them is not to never be exposed to a trigger. It’s to have a space where people who rarely/never feel safe specifically because they are being constantly triggered by living their daily lives are able to let down their guard and approach those issues on their own terms.
The reality of making this a safe space for various marginalized groups is that it involves us accommodating each other. I didn’t even realize I had triggers before I started hanging out in communities like this and observing these norms (which btw this community isn’t even that strict about). It’s actually helped quite a bit to be able to get into the habit of avoiding specific topics if I’m having a bad day and I’ve managed to increase my tolerance over time to the point where I’m not triggered more than a couple times a year.
I guess I just miss there being a space like the old sub. This is kind of where I go to spit out my poison so I don't do it to people in real life. Now that reddit shut down every leftist space, I have nowhere to get my spicy content.
That's not a definition of food. That's a quality you'd like your food to have, but any random rock I find is cruelty free but I would not say a granite boulder is food. I am asking, if you wrote a dictionary and I flipped to the word "food," what would I find there? I'm not gonna debate any legitimate definition, I want to better understand how you see the topic
I'm not interested in playing word games with you when my definition is clear
That or the people who respond to every post with the same reddit brained “joke”, whether it’s an emoji or a cliche reddit type phrase
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Asking for a CW for meat from our reactionary comrades isn't an inability to exist in the world. It's a request for them to do better and not openly post about their sick desire to kill and cook animals
Hey, I'm down, but how do you handle it when you see a hamburger on a billboard?
:im-vegan: by the way, I just think it would behoove the movement to have a thicker skin
It genuinely has nothing to do with my ability to look at meat and everything to do with normalizing animals as food
It is already normalized. It's going to take a lot of work to undo. Probably won't see any change in our lifetime. The hogs need bacon wrapped shrimp so bad, they're willing to burn the planet down for it.
I agree with you, though reinforcing that somewhere is very small start. I'm as doomer as you are about this fwiw
I'm sorry for coming across so cynical. I just want you to know I'm on your side, I just see inconsistencies on here and feel like it's worth talking about.
Wanting a CW on something is not the same thing as being unable to handle seeing it. In the same way having preferred pronouns doesn't mean that I can't handle being called by the wrong ones. Just because someone can put up with something doesn't mean we should make them put up with it, if we can easily accommodate them.
Where's the line? There's a big ass spider and two pictures of someone about to be murdered on the main page right now with no CW.
Maybe everything should default to the CW filter and everyone can decide where their personal line is.
Has anyone said that those images bother them, and asked for a CW?
I saw a poster recently argue that pigpoopballs was unsettling because they had IBS and seeing shit running down the balls of a pig was uncomfortable, and everyone dogpiled them and told them to chill.
It seems to me that there is no standard. Is the standard "whatever I can get people to agree with and if they don't, oh well guess I have to look at stuff that upsets me because nobody had my back"?
It seems to me that there is no standard. Is the standard “whatever I can get people to agree with and if they don’t, oh well guess I have to look at stuff that upsets me because nobody had my back”?
This is just social construction theory. Yes, this is how it works. If a particular kind of content is triggering for a large enough portion of users in a space who feel like they can voice their concerns, they’ll do so and that rule can be codified to accommodate those people.
That threshold can vary from issue to issue and group to group and doesn’t have to involve a majority of people of even a particularly large minority. So, for example, transphobia is not required to be CWed on this site because a large enough percentage of us have a common basis for figuring out what kinds of transphobia are acceptable to discuss openly vs which should be spoilered
I guess the seemingly arbitrary nature confuses me sometimes. I'm not advocating for a change to the rule, I just have my own opinions about it
That’s fair. I struggle with that as well sometimes. But usually the devil’s in the details and you can find explanations for specific rules if you ask around. Either that or no one can explain it and the rule can disappear
For me, it's easy enough to just not engage if I feel like there's a weird grey area. On the other hand, I think it can be worthwhile to challenge norms by at least bringing it up. It's real easy to not be an asshole. It is a little hard to keep up with the rule changes if you're not a power user on hexbear. I have so much stuff flying around in my head at any given time.
I mean, yeah? Do you think it'd be better to have an objective set of rules? Imo it's pretty subjective what needs it and what doesn't, so I think that handling it socially makes sense.
Putting a CW on PPB would directly interfere with the point of PPB as a shock image to hit wreckers with, and it sounds like it was really just one person. It's unfortunate for them, but I agree with that judgement call, personally.
I guess the arbitrarity(?) of it confuses me. I don't have any particular triggers, and I understand people that do. I sympathize with them, and want to make the world a better place. PPB being "shocking" and used as a tool to bully others is a weird concept when we try to accommodate and make everyone welcome, or swiftly give them the boot.
Personally, I'm pro bullying. This site has conflicting views on bullying. I got a post removed because I didn't sympathize with a crypto-bro who allegedly lost all of his money. Then, I see a bunch of screengrabs of people crying about the same thing and people on here dunking on them..
The lesson I learned I guess was " it's ok to be an asshole behind people's backs, but once they set foot on hexbear, we can't. Even if they're here in bad faith".
I wasn't trying to start a struggle sesh, and I hope you and I can be cool. I just think there are a lot of polarizing opinions here that are hard to navigate sometimes.
Yeah I mean I agree, that's kinda an inherent contradiction in the whole "dirtbag left" concept. On the one hand, we want to be inclusive, but on the other hand we want to bully the libs. I think there's bound to be edge cases and mistakes and such while trying to square the two.
It's hard to know where the line is sometimes. My post was removed because "we shouldn't kick fellow proles when they're down". I agree we shouldn't kick comrades at all, but I don't think anyone who bought into crypto is on the same page as the rest of us. I get being desperate, but destroying the planet for digital beanie babies is not leftist.
