Pretty fucking disappointing considering I like metal in general but specifically referring to 'because anything exceptional gets crushed by common people, with jealousy and ignorance and all their common evils' then again down the line they spit out 'Androgny and insults, you try so hard to be difficult' ... Good thing it's garbage compared to a lot of their shit and it's only the chorus that gets played for 'thirsty' tik toks... But goddamn, is being goth emo punk etc not a form of queer expression? Stg I'm gonna end up only listing to polyphia, animals as leaders, whoever tf, so long as it's only instrumental because fuck this shit. Maybe I'll go through and finish kmfdm posting as a cleanser. Like who tf did they piss off because they were being a bigot and got push back. Like good you got the bare minimum of what you deserve. Link because I'm not a lib, but really didn't want to bother linking it... Really disappointed
Maybe it's because I listened to them in the ancient times but the band with songs like "people = shit" and lyrics like "i want to slit your throat and fuck the wound" never seemed like it was going to take a progressive turn to me. I stopped listening to them after 3.0 though
Pretty much just listened to them because loud guitars and drums = dopamine. I was a bit nihilistic and thought a lot of issues with society were due to """stupid""" people. Was always anti-capitalist in a sense, but never really put everything together until after highschool. But yeah here I am still a nihilist but more coherent and understanding that it can be taken in a leftist direction, that life is meaningless without the support of others and the bonds shared with others makes life meaningful. Something something Sisyphus happy. But just feel gross about it. Archenemy to my (limited) knowledge of them would be a better lefty alternative, imo.
I don't investigate the political ideology of bands I like for the exact reason of >loud guitars and drums = dopamine.
Yeah... But I like to know I'm not blasting neo Nazi ish... Which I guess a lot of modern metal and rock is pandering to the diet version of fascists... Sigh
If you watch old interviews with them and read Corey Taylor's book, you'll see that they were never particularly inclusive. They were pretty much just inclusive for unpopular/edgy, young white men. Also pretty misogynistic. I don't think they intentionally were garbage at the time, but they also weren't intentionally inclusive and contributed to discrimination against women and LGBT+. I'm not sure if they've improved with time because I stopped following them quite a while ago.
I would say they are reactionary as most US musicians are. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy their music, just that you won't be finding the progressive and revolutionary values you are seeking with this or most bands.
Wasn't expecting them to sing songs fit for the revolution but I used to like them, guess I never truly listened to the lyrics. Fuck. Edit: To be clear, never went out of my way to listen to them, but listened to them on the radio, Pandora, whatever. Edit Edit: goddamn it psychosocial is worse, especially because they're close to getting it but throw in 'fake anti fascist lie (PsYcHoSoCiAl)'. Pretty sure they were touching on the bullshit we were fed in the bush era but then both sides it with just one small bullshit take. I'm sure static x is like this to a degree but they don't really say much of anything, and encourage kill(ing) your idols... Silver lining I guess.
If you don't want to read the whole book, I Don't Even Own a Television did a pretty good deep dive on it a while back: https://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/2016/08/07/061-seven-deadly-sins-w-lemon/
But yeah, they've sadly never really been super great on the issues.
As to the fake anti-fascist lie, my interpretation was that he's saying the US pretended they were fighting fascism in WWII, when they were propagating it and sending the poor to die for non-moralistic reasons.
Maybe. Not sure though. I'm confident that I can listen to kmfdm guilt free though.
Only tangentially related to what you're talking about, but I used to have a lot of respect for bands/musicians who "stayed in their home town even after they made it big" which Slipknot is probably one of the biggest examples of, but for some weird reason in the last few years I feel like I keep hearing sus-shit about every prominent example of it.
Expressed this sentiment to a friend of mine who actually does some music promotion stuff and said it's a bit of a "meme" in the music industry, if you move to NYC or LA you're gonna be around other artists at or above your fame level who may criticize or call you out so you have these dudes who decided they'd rather be the biggest rock star in Tulsa OK where their "home-boy" fame lets them feel like a big fish in a small pond. Idk if that's actually a widespread thing or just some trend me and my random friend imagined.
Nothing sus has come out about Turnstile yet so I'm crossing my fingers
