Pretty fucking disappointing considering I like metal in general but specifically referring to 'because anything exceptional gets crushed by common people, with jealousy and ignorance and all their common evils' then again down the line they spit out 'Androgny and insults, you try so hard to be difficult' ... Good thing it's garbage compared to a lot of their shit and it's only the chorus that gets played for 'thirsty' tik toks... But goddamn, is being goth emo punk etc not a form of queer expression? Stg I'm gonna end up only listing to polyphia, animals as leaders, whoever tf, so long as it's only instrumental because fuck this shit. Maybe I'll go through and finish kmfdm posting as a cleanser. Like who tf did they piss off because they were being a bigot and got push back. Like good you got the bare minimum of what you deserve. Link because I'm not a lib, but really didn't want to bother linking it... Really disappointed

  • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    If you watch old interviews with them and read Corey Taylor's book, you'll see that they were never particularly inclusive. They were pretty much just inclusive for unpopular/edgy, young white men. Also pretty misogynistic. I don't think they intentionally were garbage at the time, but they also weren't intentionally inclusive and contributed to discrimination against women and LGBT+. I'm not sure if they've improved with time because I stopped following them quite a while ago.

    I would say they are reactionary as most US musicians are. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy their music, just that you won't be finding the progressive and revolutionary values you are seeking with this or most bands.

    • Anne_Teefa
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Wasn't expecting them to sing songs fit for the revolution but I used to like them, guess I never truly listened to the lyrics. Fuck. Edit: To be clear, never went out of my way to listen to them, but listened to them on the radio, Pandora, whatever. Edit Edit: goddamn it psychosocial is worse, especially because they're close to getting it but throw in 'fake anti fascist lie (PsYcHoSoCiAl)'. Pretty sure they were touching on the bullshit we were fed in the bush era but then both sides it with just one small bullshit take. I'm sure static x is like this to a degree but they don't really say much of anything, and encourage kill(ing) your idols... Silver lining I guess.

      • erik [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        If you don't want to read the whole book, I Don't Even Own a Television did a pretty good deep dive on it a while back: https://www.idontevenownatelevision.com/2016/08/07/061-seven-deadly-sins-w-lemon/

        But yeah, they've sadly never really been super great on the issues.

        • Anne_Teefa
          hexagon
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          8 months ago

          Bookmarked and will listen later.

      • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 months ago

        As to the fake anti-fascist lie, my interpretation was that he's saying the US pretended they were fighting fascism in WWII, when they were propagating it and sending the poor to die for non-moralistic reasons.

        • Anne_Teefa
          hexagon
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          8 months ago

          Maybe. Not sure though. I'm confident that I can listen to kmfdm guilt free though.