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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    We need a real debate about the Ukraine war WaPo

    I was fully expecting this to be something like "You think Putin is a bad man? I think Putin is a VERY bad man. We need to make sure people know how bad Putin is, because there's a ton of people out there (read: people bullying me on Twitter) saying that Russia is good." But it's actually the best WaPo article that has come out of that accursed, rotten place in a while.

    It’s time to challenge the orthodox view on the war in Ukraine.

    As Russia’s illegal and brutal assault enters its fourth month, the impact on Europe, the Global South and the world is already profound. We are witnessing the emergence of a new political/military world order. Climate action is being sidelined as reliance on fossil fuels increases; food scarcity and other resource demands are pushing prices upward and causing widespread global hunger; and the worldwide refugee crisis — with more international refugees and internally displaced people than at any time since the end of World War II — poses a massive challenge.

    Furthermore, the more protracted the war in Ukraine, the greater the risk of a nuclear accident or incident. And with the Biden administration’s strategy to “weaken” Russia with the scale of weapons shipments, including anti-ship missiles, and revelations of U.S. intelligence assistance to Ukraine, it is clear that the United States and NATO are in a proxy war with Russia.

    Shouldn’t the ramifications, perils and multifaceted costs of this proxy war be a central topic of media coverage — as well as informed analysis, discussion and debate? Yet what we have in the media and political establishment is, for the most part, a one-sided, even nonexistent, public discussion and debate. It’s as if we live with what journalist Matt Taibbi has dubbed an “intellectual no-fly zone.”

    Those who have departed from the orthodox line on Ukraine are regularly excluded from or marginalized — certainly rarely seen — on big corporate media. The result is that alternative and countervailing views and voices seem nonexistent. Wouldn’t it be healthy to have more diversity of views, history and context rather than “confirmation bias”?

    Those who speak of history and offer context about the West’s precipitating role in the Ukraine tragedy are not excusing Russia’s criminal attack. It is a measure of such thinking, and the rhetorical or intellectual no-fly zone, that prominent figures such as Noam Chomsky, University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer and former U.S. ambassador Chas Freeman, among others, have been demonized or slurred for raising cogent arguments and providing much-needed context and history to explain the background of this war.

    Is it not worth asking whether sending ever-more weapons to the Ukrainians is the wisest course? Is it too much to ask for more questioning and discussion about how best to diminish the danger of nuclear conflict? Why are nonconformists smeared for noting, even bolstered with reputable facts and history, the role of nationalist, far-right and, yes, neo-Nazi forces in Ukraine? Fascist or neo-Nazi revivalism is a toxic factor in many countries today, from European nations to the United States. Why is Ukraine’s history too often ignored, even denied?

    Meanwhile, as a former Marine Corps general noted, “War is a racket.” U.S. weapons conglomerates are lining up to feed at the trough. Before the war ends, many Ukrainians and Russians will die while Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman make fortunes. At the same time, network and cable news is replete with pundits and “experts” — or more accurately, military officials turned consultants — whose current jobs and clients are not disclosed to viewers.

    What is barely reflected on our TVs or Internet screens, or in Congress, are alternate views — voices of restraint, who disagree with the tendency to see compromise in negotiations as appeasement, who seek persistent and tough diplomacy to attain an effective cease-fire and a negotiated resolution, one designed to ensure that Ukraine emerges as a sovereign, independent, reconstructed and prosperous country.

    “Tell me how this ends,” Gen. David Petraeus asked Post writer Rick Atkinson a few months into the nearly decade-long Iraq War. Bringing this current war to an end will demand new thinking and challenges to the orthodoxies of this time. As the venerable American journalist Walter Lippmann once observed, “When all think alike, no one thinks very much.”

    • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
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      3 years ago

      accusations of being a putler puppet in 3,2,1

      yeah it's surprising they allowed that to be posted, good to have 'trusted media' items to share, hopefully this gets around before it's scrubbed

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Given who owns Wapo I'd assume this is Bezo and company floating the possibility of dissent in preparation for leaning on politicians to turn it down a notch. Bezos at least relies on Americans having enough money to buy his cheap shit, and people effectively have no money to even afford necessities, let alone anything else.

      • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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        3 years ago

        accusations of being a putler puppet in 3,2,1

        TBH I'd be okay with that. Discredit the fucking Washington Post all you want, libs. The affect on the opinion piece writer wouldn't be great, but the damage to the shitpaper itself and its editorial board and people's inclination to trust it? :chefs-kiss:

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Is the western bourgeoisie starting to grow tired of the shortages on energy, raw materials and money the west has imposed on itself because of this war?

      Not everyone is in the MIC. Industrial capital is being fucked over by sanctions, financial capital is losing credibility because of confiscations of Russian assets, the huge Russian market is closed to western capital.

      Lots of people in powerful positions have an objective material interest in getting their governments to climb down from the tree and seek detente.

    • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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      3 years ago

      It's an opinion piece, of course, but still a miracle it got past the editorial board. Maybe the war fervor is starting to weaken just enough for some hairline cracks around the edges.