There is a lot of answers but if I'd say just one it would be rejecting the current institutional power. At least right now in our time period. Fully rejecting the imperial state, no matter how much they potentially benefit from it seems like a solid transition

we are all lib so let's not gatekeep what leftist™️ actually is. I guarantee you were a lib once too(still are, but once too.)

  • OutrageousHairdo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    A rejection of electoralism. They have to realize that voting isn't what solves problems

      • OutrageousHairdo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Eh I'm mostly talking about USA, where capture of the democratic system is so thorough that even if 80% of the people voted for the PLA or whatever they'd still pretend that no actually Norm McRespectable (Nazi, Delaware) won

        • geikei [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Its true for like 95% of countries and all western ones not just the US

      • geikei [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        When did "voting for (in paper) non bourgeois parties and candidates" solved our issues and moves us closer to socialism. Maybe you can argue a couple latin american countries like Venezuela and Bolivia as exceptions but still these socialist movements have had huge militant non electoralist organizing upholding and catalysing their electoral existance in a way no western equivalent has ever been close to having and even still there probably would have been a straight up revolution and siezure of power if the electoral path was completely denied

        • blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          these socialist movements have had huge militant non electoralist organizing

          Yeah, that's dual power, which is what I was hinting at. Electoralism alone accomplishes nothing

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yeah that's a big one. It can take awhile to truly grasp, like many individuals feel like things can still be fixed if we just had x people in office or less y people. A big part too is like the sunken cost fallacy and so many refuse to admit that it's simply time to try literally anything else. Also its funny how voting is practically a religion to so many libs. It's a lifestyle in a way, and a cultural signifier. The people who put so much faith in electoralism are probably the most lost of them all, cause many will never get past that concept. "Vote the fascists out!"