So maybe that dual power needs to involve some dual infrastructure, yeah?

Start a mutual aid group who fronts as a tech support collective and gradually install mesh routers and nextcloud instances throughout your neighborhood to make it redundant in case of internet “outages”

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is also fantasizing about planning for a scenario that just isn't happening. The U.S
      government couldn't even get people to stay inside for 2 weeks, they're not going to suddenly shut off the internet permanently.

      But yeah, seems really implausible to set up a national, let alone international network. Fiber pulls are expensive AF.

      • Ideology [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I remember talking to some people on here about how a populist revolt against the US govt would be over something stupid.

        It would totally be over them shutting off the internet.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The U.S government couldn’t even get people to stay inside for 2 weeks

        Uhh, they never wanted people to do that. The US government can get people to go along with all kinds of things. And it doesn't matter anyways because the scenario in which they'd do that is one where it doesn't matter how much people support it.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          And they'd never want to shut down the internet for similar reasons. It's far too valuable for capital to shut down even in an emergency.

          • dro_away [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I think during the kind of unrest that necessitates shutting down mass telecommunications, generating revenue isn't really feasible.

            Nobody's got their finger on the trigger, but it's clearly on their minds...

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Ideally this project would also come alongside a focus on local-to-local communication over centralized social media too. But that’s also a whole other project

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I think the issue would be the physical infrastructure for local-to-local communication. Fiber costs over $25,000 per mile to install (probably a ton more if you want some sort of a secretive system that doesn't get any permits), so the lower end of connecting Philly and NYC is like $200k.