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I don't hate it, but i can't listen to it. Look, i can appreciate the lyrics, the culture, the way that the aggression and lack of technicality to the music adds to the message and aesthetic.
but i just can't listen to it man, i can't understand the words, the there's 1 drum beat to every punk song, the only thing i think about when a punk song comes on is that they're usually mercifully short.
i can listen to death metal, noise, hyperpop, tons of stuff that's obnoxious and noisy and harsh. but punk is just too much
this, I love the punk ethos but if I wanted to hear someone yelling incoherently over the sound of a jammed garbage disposal for 90 seconds i'd move in with my mom
:100-com: percent this. I like everything about punk except for the actual music.
I think a lot of what punk does, hip hop does better. But I've been seeing an interesting synergy between trap and emo lately, which I think is natural given where the genres came from. But you only get really good lyrics from small artists who haven't been bought out yet.
This right here. I don’t know what it is but I’ve never heard punk that really clicked for me.
I remember trying to like the Sex Pistols in high school and just couldn't get into it. I'm more of a ska guy myself. While they have a serious reggae bent you should give Upstanding Youth a listen, they're genuinely good musicians. Also Mad Caddies. https://youtu.be/wVAfXyJ1jXU https://youtu.be/H1HCcJk8TNg
I love punk. Doesn't get much love here, almost seems generationally. Makes sense I guess, no one wants to listen to there parents genre of music.
It's a forty or fifty year old genre. It's going to have dips and waves.
who's parents listen to punk? some of you had way too cool of parents
Punk is the worst form of music, except for all the others
I think it's a generational shift. I think there's been a huge reaction against rockism (completely justified) in favor of poptimism, and music based on pop music, electronic and especially hip-hop is becoming extremely dominant. Punk is left in a weird middle space since it always positioned itself against the worst excesses of 60s/70s boomer rock, yet it itself draws from rock music, so it gets thrown out with the rest of the "rock" artists even though it tried hard to differentiate itself from them. Punk was also often antagonistic towards a lot of the forms of music now being embraced by the youth, like disco, pop and electronic music. Also, let's be honest, a lot of aging punks are just as bad as the white boomers with their exclusion of any type of music deemed "not punk enough." I also think punk has the tendency to be extremely macho and male-oriented, which most of the younger generation doesn't want. This is especially true of most beginner punk bands that you'd listen to if you were "trying to get into punk," like Black Flag and really most bands from the early 80s.
I think if punk wants to move forward, the genre needs to challenge the white, straight and cis male dominance of the scene, and also reexamine its attitudes towards other music genres. A lot of the hatred of disco and pop was cis male reaction, but I think there was also a rejection of what many considered reactionary and bourgeois attitudes. Those attitudes are separate from the music genres though, and the punks should really examine what it is they're actually against. I think punk has a lot to offer the youth, especially with its emphasis on anger and living under capitalist alienation, but it can seem very stuck in the gen X 80s and 90s, and it needs to move forward. Two ways to do this I think would be to embrace subgenres like emo, which was created as a reaction against the macho tendencies in the scene, and sass, which largely existed to make punk more "fun" and not so rigid to try and open up the scene to different groups of people (not just white males). It was supposed to be more "danceable" and sass would go on to influence the dance-punk scene in the early 2000s.
I think if punk wants to move forward, the genre needs to challenge the white, straight and cis male dominance of the scene, and also reexamine its attitudes towards other music genres. A lot of the hatred of disco and pop was cis male reaction, but I think there was also a rejection of what many considered reactionary and bourgeois attitudes. Those attitudes are separate from the music genres though, and the punks should really examine what it is they’re actually against. I think punk has a lot to offer the youth, especially with its emphasis on anger and living under capitalist alienation, but it can seem very stuck in the gen X 80s and 90s, and it needs to move forward. Two ways to do this I think would be to embrace subgenres like emo, which was created as a reaction against the macho tendencies in the scene, and sass, which largely existed to make punk more “fun” and not so rigid to try and open up the scene to different groups of people (not just white males). It was supposed to be more “danceable” and sass would go on to influence the dance-punk scene in the early 2000s.
this has already been happening, you just need to find the right punk bands. it's all about the bands you listen to
The newest Turnstile album does a good job of being hardcore but also being fun
For sure ill take a listen. Just reading about it, I appreciate the inclusion of Dev Hynes since Test Icicles is one of the groups I was thinking of when mentioning dance-punk
I'm a big fan of classic punk bands like Avril Lavigne and Blink 182.
seemingly a lot of people here:
Punks not dead it just deserves to die
Punk is hippies
I don’t hate it, but i can’t listen to it. Look, i can appreciate the lyrics, the culture, the way that the aggression and lack of technicality to the music adds to the message and aesthetic.
but i just can’t listen to it man, i can’t understand the words, the there’s 1 drum beat to every punk song, the only thing i think about when a punk song comes on is that they’re usually mercifully short.
i can listen to death metal, noise, hyperpop, tons of stuff that’s obnoxious and noisy and harsh. but punk is just too much
I feel the majority of these people have not listened to an actual underground/indie punk band that produces music, some of it borrows from poppy stuff and integrates anti-toxic-masculinity messaging and it's all really awesome. if you're listening to mainstream punk you're doing it wrong
I've listened to 10 different full albums of punk bands. from Iggy to Otoboke Beaver to Ramones to Crass. I've given punk a shot, and simply didn't like it. You can't just assume that someone who has an opinion about something as subjective as musical taste is simply lacking in enough experience to appreciate it.
I've also tried 20 different beers at this point from people who were convinced that I just hadn't tried the right one. No, I just don't like beer, and I don't like Punk. Not for lack of trying, but for lack of taste.
Think you've got it backwards, the less mainstream punk is the less palatable it tends to be for most people.
idk what non-mainstream punk you're listening to but the kind i've been listening to are absolutely great
and it's not my fault people don't try to branch out their musical taste
like i hate to say it but if you don't prefer the style of music punk has then that's on you, not punk
posts "Do people here really not like punk?"
confronted with people who don't like punk
"that's on you, not punk"
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I've listened to a lot of punk and it pretty much all sounds like a lawnmower going over some tree roots to me.
I'll listen to just about anything, and do listen to a lot of genres, but punk is one of the ones that just hasn't clicked for me. It sounds like how adderall and too much coffee feels.
I love mid 00s pop-punk but I doubt that's what you're talking about.
I love mid 00s pop-punk but I doubt that’s what you’re talking about.
it probably is tbh i know nothing about music
any punk bands that don't refuse to have a goddamn melody in their song, as least for ten seconds jesus please, are cool by me.
Like, I don't need constant melody, and their haggard voices are fucking fine. But, like... some actively try to sound like cacophony and think that a melody would cause them to turn into a cop or something.
Same, I can even get on board with melodic screaming, but punk just sounds like a jammed wood chipper
Punk is the best and what got me more into leftist politics in middle school.
hell, american idiot was the only anti-bush media i was really aware of and able to consume in middle school
yea this site is mostly former and current redditors.
as someone who posted on the old sub but was never a redditor, i'm cool actually.
